Cross Dressing

Allie Kat​(sub trans woman){DarkFox} • Dec 29, 2018

I figure i will just look stuff like that up on my own. Maybe if someone else is reading through this topic, they may find a link helpful though

shahh • Dec 29, 2018

'Fishy' isnt my word DM...but the slang in drag world indicating one as 'passable'.

FetishPet​(sub trans woman) • Dec 29, 2018

Oh. Is it okay to post a link to a YouTube about how to hide the A apple?

Allie Kat​(sub trans woman){DarkFox} • Dec 28, 2018

Aww thanks so much DM ^_^ yes my avatar is me ^_^

I do want to clarify, i didnt mean to judge anyone on their personaly choices, i was meaning to say that it wasn't what /i/ wanted i have no problem with drag queens, but in my personal experience, they have a culture which is too intense for me. Doesn't mean there is anything qrong with how they do things

Yeah, it is really sad to see how mean people can be to each other... i personally try to avoid being that.

dollMaker​(dom male) • Dec 28, 2018

'Fishy', what a cringy word.

Drag is about theatre, not real world as such. The makeup, clothing is all about that, larger than life, though some chose to manifest what they feel, want to be via those stereotypical looks, others don't, but surely if that is what they want, rather than 'natural' that is ok? Here is the thing that is their choice, and I am aware it impacts, can impact on other folks journeys, but I don't think anyone should judge them.

There is a very broad spectrum in this area, from those who want to look natural and those who aspire to a more idealised view of femininity, maybe a fetish view. Surely that is up to them to do as they feel. Of course there are those who need help, but are afraid to ask and can use the support, and those that don't.

My understanding is the world we are talking about can be a very nasty, bitchy place where there are classes of acceptable and what isn't, and from what I have been told its the unber beauties that often piss on the less well gifted. I was shocked when I heard about that. I thought, had hoped in a thing that is so hard and challenging, that there would be more support and welcoming warmth. I guess I am a naive fool for thinking that their world would be better than my experiences in the BDSM world, people are often not very nice.

Anyway Wolfy, if your avatar is you, I think you are blessed in ways many are not, in so much as I think your aspiration will be easier realised than it is for some.

shahh • Dec 28, 2018

Haha Wolfy... I totally get the tendency of the look at my 17 layers of make up and huge breasts. But there are some really fishy Queens out there who may be able to guide you towards hiding an Adams apple....just maybe avoid Bedazzling the attire lol

Allie Kat​(sub trans woman){DarkFox} • Dec 28, 2018

Yeah i totally know that. The struggle is real for me, and it's in the much more progressive world. I have had friends and talked to people who have had some serious struggles just for wanting to be themselves. I just hope it will be easier for everyone to be themselves someday

FetishPet​(sub trans woman) • Dec 28, 2018

I tend to generalize.... look at me as full of rhetoric, talking about many, rather then you, as stated, it's shaky ground when talking about this topic. You do present a much more updated and sensible approach in all this. Us older girls when through hell!

Allie Kat​(sub trans woman){DarkFox} • Dec 28, 2018

@shahh

Thanks for the suggestion ^_^ when i was in college i looked for some help this way and was disappointed to find that everything was really showy and gaudy like "look at me! Im a man dressed as a woman!" Not saying all drag queens are like that, that has just been my experience. That is exactly what i would like to avoid. However, i remain open-minded if any awesome looking drag-queen has some time and wants to teach me

@ FetishPet

I would like to clarify some things for you.
1) idk where you got the assumption that all cis women would know how to do this, but it wasn't from me. If you take another look at my OP im pretty sure you can see i was all inclusive in my ask for help

2) i need/want to pass, because that is what i want not saying i expect it to happen tomorrow, but that is my goal.

Lastly, i have no interest in binge and purge... i especially don't want a huge collection of over the top theater-quality costumes and rhinestones (i particularly hate rhinestones btw) im not planning to get rid of all my masculine clothes. If/when i can dress and look like a passible woman all the time, that will be great, but not really a strong push for me.

Really, all i want is to look /normal/ as a woman, the opposite of eye-catching and that, is mostly just to avoid confrontation. If i could just look cute and be accepted as a man in cute skirts n stuff, i would be happy with that haha.

FetishPet​(sub trans woman) • Dec 28, 2018

Passing is a huge can of worms, whenever a human being looks upon another, that first millisecond is when their subconscious mind decides if they're looking at a female or a male if you make it past that millisecond you can usually continue on.

There's a few things I don't agree with when starting out.

The assumption that cis females know how to turn a male into a female with hair makeup and clothing.. go see someone that specializes in helping in that area. It will be cheaper in the long run.

Another is , why does the newly emerging crossdresser need or want to pass? Examples, going to a club, a drag show or going to Walmart & having lunch at Subway?

Then, there is a binge and Purge routine that almost everyone of us been through my last one was on New year's Eve 1983 when I trashed away every piece of "male" clothing I had at the time. On the other side, when transitioning to going out in real life , what purpose is served with those cocktail dresses six inch heels and rhinestones dripping all about?

A real effort to study the way everyday women girls and ladies dress and go about life with mannerism style and speech is very important, I still study other women in everyday life as I go about my own.

Again not speaking for others, I don't want to stand out any more other women in any given situation.

Of coarse facial hair is the largest problem, finding a hair and makeup style that looks real enough to not stop traffic is critical unless... that's what the person wants to do.

Gatherings & House parties can be a lot of fun. My girlfriend at the time went with me to a house party and a 7 ft tall white satin sissy maid answered the door my girlfriend nearly fainted, but had a good time!

But, all in all everyday life is pretty conservative. it's hard work away from hyper femininity that many cders want.

female fashion style selection guides do work for male bodies, the best advice I've always received is "less is more"