The Sweet Spot: When Does 'Too Much' Pain Become Exactly Right?

hey deviants,

As a sadist who thrives on pushing edges without breaking them, I’m curious about that razor-thin line where pain flips from "overwhelming/nope" to "fuck yes, more, please don't stop."

For the masochists/subs here: What's the moment or specific sensation/technique that makes suffering click into pleasure for you? Is it the buildup, the type of implement, the psychological layer (humiliation, objectification, fear), or something else entirely? Share an example if you're comfortable—did a particular scene or implement finally unlock that subspace/high?

For fellow sadists/doms: How do you read that shift in real time? Do you have go-to cues (breathing, body language, begging patterns) or tools (canes vs. floggers vs. mindfuckery) that reliably tip someone over into craving the cruelty?

And for everyone: Have you ever misjudged the line and had to pull back hard? What did you learn?

No judgment here—just genuine curiosity from someone who loves crafting torment that leaves them begging for round two. Let's discuss.

Thoughts? Experiences? 😈

it has had torturing sadist Doms, it has never used a safe word or begged. Apparently, it is a pain pig.

I am not into "the physical" these days, but when I was, it definitely was big plus to be in bondage, objectified and humiliated.

It all combined with the pain to make any "session" especially erotic for me.

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I don't feel up to relating specific examples, that is write about "the old days". I was never into reading or writing erotica or BDSM experiences.

Also, my examples may be too pedestrian to most dominants with a "sadist mode" but that was my experience in those days.

My masochism is purely from my Master's pleasure. So it's when I see his enjoyment. That makes the pain worth it, usually. If it doesn't, I learn a new limit lol. (And is why I don't particularly care for blindfolds, since my pleasure comes from seeing his, though if he's very verbal I can hear it sometimes.)

Thanks for sharing, folks, loving the varied perspectives!

To the pain pig who never safewords or begs: Impressive stamina! What pulls you toward those intense sadists, quick dives in, or a buildup ritual? Any fave implement or scenario that amps up your "pain pig" vibe?

To the one reminiscent of the old days: Bondage, objectification, and humiliation as pain enhancers totally click, they add that mental edge. Your "pedestrian" stories are still gold; no need for extremes. What led you away from physical play, a slow shift or key event?

To the sub thriving on your Master's enjoyment: Beautiful setup, pain for connection. Visual/verbal cues from him make it work; smart avoiding blindfolds if needed. Ways to boost that during sensory blocks, or do you negotiate around them?

On misjudging: Early flogger mishap—ramped too fast on words alone, missed body tension. Pulled back, debriefed, now I cross-check cues like breathing, eyes, and safewords. Communication's key!

More stories? That "aha" pain-to-pleasure flip? Sadists' edge-teasing tricks? 😈

Oh gosh this is a hard one to explain
I adore pain its a huge mental release for me
I think for me when done within boundaries of course there isn't enough lol
I think you always feel it more in the beginning but then your mind switches and what was ouch just turns into pleasure.
Id stay all day for a impact session but then when you mix it with other things like breath play, bondage ect its another level.
I think its important for newer subs to find someone seasoned who knows how to read their sub becouse we do enjoy it so much.
And for the new sadist D types to educate themselves and know how to read their subs
Yep im rambling 😂

To me, the pain and humiliation represent a very large part of the equation. More of both, the better.