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1 month ago. March 25, 2024 at 7:23 PM

The above is the title of a book by Lt. Col Dave Grossman USA (Ret.). LTC Grossman is one of the foremost military authorities on the psychological and psychosocial effects on the human condition when one takes life.

I was recently introduced to some of my Son's new shipmates, they are young men. Too young to have participated in the violence of the last twenty plus years, but old enough to be thrown into the maelstrom of what lies just beyond the horizon. Invariably, the question is always raised about my participation in the wars just waged. 

 

As young men are, they are enthralled with the vision of glory as too many ascribe to the carnage of war. War in it's essence is abject failure. Failure by those with cooler heads and far more intelligence than your humble scribe possesses dear friends, failure to use the policy and diplomacy of the mind and pen and calling to duty and purpose those of us at the pointed end of the spear. As the "wise" old salt, it is my responsibility to strip them of this notion of the glory. While there is Valor in action, there are also lifelong repercussions. That when the guns stop, the men that ordered them to thunder often forget to tend to those that went forward. 

Those of us who have stood in the grayness between dusk and dawn and good and evil recognize the failures and foibles. But nonetheless, lessons are forgotten.

 

On killing...is a notion that some day will cease to creep in the night.

 

 

 

 

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1 month ago
Maxorde​(dom male) - I’ve told many a young lad that the glory and glamour of combat ceases the moment the first round snaps past your head. I stand by that. I’ve seen and experienced what you’re talking about. Taking a life is not glorious or satisfying in the long run. It’s an unthinkable act that is done in the heat of combat and haunts you long after the deed is done.
1 month ago
Literate Lycan​(dom male) - I haven't read Grossman's literature, but I've seen it. Both Sun Tzu and Clausewitz in their guidance stipulate that war is simply an extension of politics and therefore an extension of the state and national security. As young men most of us were thrilled with the heady dreams of adventure and the glory, made manifest by the various movies of war and action many of us grew up with. For me, John Wayne, Kirk Douglas and a host of others presented the ideal for which my father joined the service and later both myself and my brother. My father had the sense to serve a few years enlisted before heading to college to obtain a degree, initially imagining he would return as an officer - but instead his calling lay elsewhere working at NASA on the space program. My brother and I were not so intelligent, instead spending careers as officers in uniform. Proud and humble, but only after learning.

I agree regarding failure. The military does not initiate war. It simply carries it out. At the end of the day, there really is no glory in being a tool. When the state and politics fail, when diplomacy fails, then war is the result. But obviously those who failed did not have a cooler head nor more intelligence than you did. We have simply to see what various heads of the state in various countries are doing and how they are talking to realize perhaps many of them aren't that cool nor intelligent after all.

But considering many of the current youth entering service weren't even alive on 9/11 they cannot grasp the overall severity. It's alien. At least when we grew up, to some degree, there was still discussions of the impact of Pearl Harbor prior to entering the US in the world war, and the devastation of the bombs the US dropped that ended it. We grew up knowing of Vietnam and the actual assassination of a sitting US President. It sounds like you are trying to make a positive representation on the horror of war and providing mentoring to the next generation. Good job and good luck.
1 month ago
piperlou​(sub female){MP} - My Dear Sir, this was written so beautifully & poignantly. Thank you for mentoring and shepherding the next generation of soldiers and valiant young men and women.

But, this line got me- “That when the guns stop, the men that ordered them to thunder often forget to tend to those that went forward.”

We, as a nation of humans, with hearts that beat in each of our chests, need to remember to tend to those who went forward so bravely when ordered to do so! It is so often that those are the very strongest hearts and yet the first ones to wage war within themselves over all they have seen and done during the following of those orders.

May we always remember, honor, & applaud the courage and sacrifice those who went forward make on a daily basis. Courage and bravery go unrecognized too often!
1 month ago
I'mME - Hoo Ruh....

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1 month ago
Six Foot Four - When we switched from a drafted military to an all-volunteer one, we went from 3/4 of Congress being veterans to 1/6. The people making the call no longer have personal experience of what war means. I'm glad you're doing your best to educate those who have chosen to step up. Keep up the good work.
1 month ago

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