► AidenS wrote:
It’s hard to communicate that as a sub , if you ask for what you want and get it .. it’s a bit like you are the top telling the other guy what to do to you. To be sub is to ( at least create the image that you ) submit to things you really don’t want... and to a greater or lesser extent the test of being a sub is how much you will submit to pain and unpleasantness or disgust/humiliating things
If you came hoping for something that would give you pleasure and you go away feeling you got what you wanted.. then who is the top and who is the sub..? And what do you want from the other guy? To give you what you enjoy? Or to subjugate you to his needs irrespective of your feelings.. ? Or to find the point at which you experience the sensation of being unable to do anything other than accept the treatment of a superior .. which may be designed to demonstrate and test you submissiveness by being stud you DONT like
You seem to be describing your own preferred dynamic while the OP clearly has a more warmhearted approach in her interactions with *her* sub. The fact that she cares about pleasing him doesn't make her sub any less of a submissive nor does it make her any less of a domme. I prefer seeing dynamics where both parties have their needs met and share a healthy and mutual affection, personally.