| darlingdiana(sub female) |
10 hours ago •
Oct 26, 2026
► B L O N D I E wrote: I want to clarify a few things because I don't want this forum thread to turn into all of us women getting together to rag on men for being selfish and exploitative. The subject of squirting is obviously not a problem of male ego because I have never met any man who has ever even implied that I should squirt. I'm sorry that all of you have experienced that, but none of my previous sexual partners has ever even mentioned it. I was with my former dominant for two years before I learned how to squirt with no help or input from him. He treated me exactly the same way afterward as he did before and he didn't mention it afterward, either. So there are obviously a great many men out there who don't care about squirting at all and would be more than happy if their partner didn't do it.
I have also met lesbians who considered it a badge of honor to make a woman squirt, so it's definitely not a problem of male ego. Selfish people are going to be selfish no matter which gender they are. I would also add that every woman is different. We all respond to different stimuli, so anyone of any gender who considers themselves an "expert" is delusional. In my experience, we can consider squirting a different kind of orgasm with different sensations and responses and different stimuli needed to make it happen. I don't think any of us would consider it selfish or exploitative for a man to want to give a woman an orgasm. We would consider it natural for him to say, "I'll help you get there" if she'd never had one before. She would be within her rights to say, "I don't want the pressure of trying to have one." If he ignored that and put pressure on her anyway, then we could consider him selfish and exploitative. Then we could correctly gauge if he was respecting her boundaries and accepted her decision or if he was trying to bolster his ego by gaining some kind of achievement. I have learned one thing in my years on this planet: How much a woman enjoys herself in bed comes almost entirely down to her relationship with herself. You can teach a man to do better in bed. If she doesn't have a good relationship with herself, she won't enjoy herself no matter what he does. In my experience, squirting is not a matter of receiving the right kind and amount of stimuli from my partner. My partner can give me the "right" kind of stimuli all day long. I have to apply certain kinds of muscular tension and pressure on my own to make myself squirt. I can't do it at all if I don't make a conscious choice to do it, so if anyone is gaining an achievement with it, I am. We all have opinions and experiences. In my opinion and the sub after me, it was male ego. It doesnāt mean they are all this way. I indicated I havenāt had every lover. Each of us will and are entitled to our own outlook and opinion. If you are making a conscious choice itās not a biological reaction. It urinatingā¦ which is performance. The context of the OP was a biological reaction which most of us are familiar with squirting in this way. A conscious choice is not an orgasm- its a biological function wanted or not. Weāre not talking about men wanting to give us orgasms, we are talking about what makes it a great concern and achievement to them when squirting, in this context is orgasm, a slightly different type. What makes anyone selfish and exploitive is going to be bias to that individual. Try and look at it like a woman demanding for her man to stay hard and cum 2/6 times because āshe knows she can do itā. Itās helping him get there isnāt it? No- itās her ego and unwanted disturbance when he may have not been anticipating performance expectations. The one thing you have learned in this world in bed is strictly your own experience and no one elseās. I have had orgasms when i certainly didnāt want or intend to; angry, mad and sad. Thatās what makes us unique and night and day different. No man would want variety or a different experience otherwise. All of us are submissiveās that have have had similar Men. Donāt be āsorryā for us that they were not your men in the sack. Weāre not. Many of us would not be ok with teaching a Dominant how to be better in bed or one that pretends a biological function didnāt happen. I donāt recall anyone here saying they were an expert. The last thing we will do on this thread is change our own point of view and we all want everyone to be themselves. We donāt need any clarifications- just our own personal opinions and experiences on our own behalf, not on everyone elseās. |
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| B L O N D I E(sub female) |
8 hours ago •
Oct 26, 2026
► darlingdiana wrote: ► B L O N D I E wrote: I want to clarify a few things because I don't want this forum thread to turn into all of us women getting together to rag on men for being selfish and exploitative. The subject of squirting is obviously not a problem of male ego because I have never met any man who has ever even implied that I should squirt. I'm sorry that all of you have experienced that, but none of my previous sexual partners has ever even mentioned it. I was with my former dominant for two years before I learned how to squirt with no help or input from him. He treated me exactly the same way afterward as he did before and he didn't mention it afterward, either. So there are obviously a great many men out there who don't care about squirting at all and would be more than happy if their partner didn't do it.
I have also met lesbians who considered it a badge of honor to make a woman squirt, so it's definitely not a problem of male ego. Selfish people are going to be selfish no matter which gender they are. I would also add that every woman is different. We all respond to different stimuli, so anyone of any gender who considers themselves an "expert" is delusional. In my experience, we can consider squirting a different kind of orgasm with different sensations and responses and different stimuli needed to make it happen. I don't think any of us would consider it selfish or exploitative for a man to want to give a woman an orgasm. We would consider it natural for him to say, "I'll help you get there" if she'd never had one before. She would be within her rights to say, "I don't want the pressure of trying to have one." If he ignored that and put pressure on her anyway, then we could consider him selfish and exploitative. Then we could correctly gauge if he was respecting her boundaries and accepted her decision or if he was trying to bolster his ego by gaining some kind of achievement. I have learned one thing in my years on this planet: How much a woman enjoys herself in bed comes almost entirely down to her relationship with herself. You can teach a man to do better in bed. If she doesn't have a good relationship with herself, she won't enjoy herself no matter what he does. In my experience, squirting is not a matter of receiving the right kind and amount of stimuli from my partner. My partner can give me the "right" kind of stimuli all day long. I have to apply certain kinds of muscular tension and pressure on my own to make myself squirt. I can't do it at all if I don't make a conscious choice to do it, so if anyone is gaining an achievement with it, I am. We all have opinions and experiences. In my opinion and the sub after me, it was male ego. It doesnāt mean they are all this way. I indicated I havenāt had every lover. Each of us will and are entitled to our own outlook and opinion. If you are making a conscious choice itās not a biological reaction. It urinatingā¦ which is performance. The context of the OP was a biological reaction which most of us are familiar with squirting in this way. A conscious choice is not an orgasm- its a biological function wanted or not. Weāre not talking about men wanting to give us orgasms, we are talking about what makes it a great concern and achievement to them when squirting, in this context is orgasm, a slightly different type. What makes anyone selfish and exploitive is going to be bias to that individual. Try and look at it like a woman demanding for her man to stay hard and cum 2/6 times because āshe knows she can do itā. Itās helping him get there isnāt it? No- itās her ego and unwanted disturbance when he may have not been anticipating performance expectations. The one thing you have learned in this world in bed is strictly your own experience and no one elseās. I have had orgasms when i certainly didnāt want or intend to; angry, mad and sad. Thatās what makes us unique and night and day different. No man would want variety or a different experience otherwise. All of us are submissiveās that have have had similar Men. Donāt be āsorryā for us that they were not your men in the sack. Weāre not. Many of us would not be ok with teaching a Dominant how to be better in bed or one that pretends a biological function didnāt happen. I donāt recall anyone here saying they were an expert. The last thing we will do on this thread is change our own point of view and we all want everyone to be themselves. We donāt need any clarifications- just our own personal opinions and experiences on our own behalf, not on everyone elseās. I repeated stated in my response that I was speaking from my own experience just as you were. Your opinion doesn't invalidate mine just as mine doesn't invalidate yours. Medical and scientific research is very clear that squirting is not urinating. I have squirted hundreds of times and I think I can tell the difference in smell, texture, and sensation between squirting and urinating. Squirting can be done voluntarily or involuntarily just as orgasm can be done voluntarily or involuntarily. You make a big noise about everyone having their own experience, but you seem convinced that your own involuntary experience of squirting is the only one possible. I have done it consciously many times. It was not urine and it was not performance. I did it for my own pleasure--not his. All of this is backed up by scientific research. As far as the phenomenon being connected to male ego, you cited two incidents of men having this attitude and BeautifullyImperfect cited one. That's hardly a representative sample and not a basis to generalize to the entire male population, especially since lesbian women are doing exactly the same thing. |
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| darlingdiana(sub female) |
7 hours ago •
Oct 26, 2026
► Old Soul wrote: Good topic & discussion,
We are all different and like many aspects of sex, Kink, S/M or D/S there are so many variables that can effect any, all or non of the outcomes. Surely it is ultimately about giving and receiving pleasure in what ever form that takes for the people involved. While I do agree that some men do seem to fixate on it and see squirting as the golden ticket and a sign that their partner is totally satisfied. I personally don't mind it either way, I have enjoyed being 'drenched' a number of times with different partner's squirted during orgasm as I was giving her oral. Some are embarrassed some are pleased. I have also used the so called 'come hither' finger technique to induce squirting, when I have been asked, sometime successful other times not. My point is there is no clear hard & fast rules we are all individuals and many factors effect so many aspects of sex it in not possible to be 100% accurate. In my view as long as all parties are consenting and enjoying their activities then all is well. For me it makes absolutely no difference, I enjoy it if it happens but I am certainly not disappointed if it doesn't. The makings of a great lover, I always enjoy your writings though (Im bias š) |
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| darlingdiana(sub female) |
7 hours ago •
Oct 26, 2026
► B L O N D I E wrote: ► darlingdiana wrote: ► B L O N D I E wrote: I want to clarify a few things because I don't want this forum thread to turn into all of us women getting together to rag on men for being selfish and exploitative. The subject of squirting is obviously not a problem of male ego because I have never met any man who has ever even implied that I should squirt. I'm sorry that all of you have experienced that, but none of my previous sexual partners has ever even mentioned it. I was with my former dominant for two years before I learned how to squirt with no help or input from him. He treated me exactly the same way afterward as he did before and he didn't mention it afterward, either. So there are obviously a great many men out there who don't care about squirting at all and would be more than happy if their partner didn't do it.
I have also met lesbians who considered it a badge of honor to make a woman squirt, so it's definitely not a problem of male ego. Selfish people are going to be selfish no matter which gender they are. I would also add that every woman is different. We all respond to different stimuli, so anyone of any gender who considers themselves an "expert" is delusional. In my experience, we can consider squirting a different kind of orgasm with different sensations and responses and different stimuli needed to make it happen. I don't think any of us would consider it selfish or exploitative for a man to want to give a woman an orgasm. We would consider it natural for him to say, "I'll help you get there" if she'd never had one before. She would be within her rights to say, "I don't want the pressure of trying to have one." If he ignored that and put pressure on her anyway, then we could consider him selfish and exploitative. Then we could correctly gauge if he was respecting her boundaries and accepted her decision or if he was trying to bolster his ego by gaining some kind of achievement. I have learned one thing in my years on this planet: How much a woman enjoys herself in bed comes almost entirely down to her relationship with herself. You can teach a man to do better in bed. If she doesn't have a good relationship with herself, she won't enjoy herself no matter what he does. In my experience, squirting is not a matter of receiving the right kind and amount of stimuli from my partner. My partner can give me the "right" kind of stimuli all day long. I have to apply certain kinds of muscular tension and pressure on my own to make myself squirt. I can't do it at all if I don't make a conscious choice to do it, so if anyone is gaining an achievement with it, I am. We all have opinions and experiences. In my opinion and the sub after me, it was male ego. It doesnāt mean they are all this way. I indicated I havenāt had every lover. Each of us will and are entitled to our own outlook and opinion. If you are making a conscious choice itās not a biological reaction. It urinatingā¦ which is performance. The context of the OP was a biological reaction which most of us are familiar with squirting in this way. A conscious choice is not an orgasm- its a biological function wanted or not. Weāre not talking about men wanting to give us orgasms, we are talking about what makes it a great concern and achievement to them when squirting, in this context is orgasm, a slightly different type. What makes anyone selfish and exploitive is going to be bias to that individual. Try and look at it like a woman demanding for her man to stay hard and cum 2/6 times because āshe knows she can do itā. Itās helping him get there isnāt it? No- itās her ego and unwanted disturbance when he may have not been anticipating performance expectations. The one thing you have learned in this world in bed is strictly your own experience and no one elseās. I have had orgasms when i certainly didnāt want or intend to; angry, mad and sad. Thatās what makes us unique and night and day different. No man would want variety or a different experience otherwise. All of us are submissiveās that have have had similar Men. Donāt be āsorryā for us that they were not your men in the sack. Weāre not. Many of us would not be ok with teaching a Dominant how to be better in bed or one that pretends a biological function didnāt happen. I donāt recall anyone here saying they were an expert. The last thing we will do on this thread is change our own point of view and we all want everyone to be themselves. We donāt need any clarifications- just our own personal opinions and experiences on our own behalf, not on everyone elseās. I repeated stated in my response that I was speaking from my own experience just as you were. Your opinion doesn't invalidate mine just as mine doesn't invalidate yours. Medical and scientific research is very clear that squirting is not urinating. I have squirted hundreds of times and I think I can tell the difference in smell, texture, and sensation between squirting and urinating. Squirting can be done voluntarily or involuntarily just as orgasm can be done voluntarily or involuntarily. You make a big noise about everyone having their own experience, but you seem convinced that your own involuntary experience of squirting is the only one possible. I have done it consciously many times. It was not urine and it was not performance. I did it for my own pleasure--not his. All of this is backed up by scientific research. As far as the phenomenon being connected to male ego, you cited two incidents of men having this attitude and BeautifullyImperfect cited one. That's hardly a representative sample and not a basis to generalize to the entire male population, especially since lesbian women are doing exactly the same thing. Donāt get your tits twisted shug. We donāt and will never see eye to eye. I can withhold nasty comments, because I donāt take it personal for a second- give it a try. I am flattered you think I am a big noise, thatās adorable . It wouldnāt matter if it was 1/3 of a Man of each of us. Itās not the numbers that validate and any number is a sample for anyones basis and experience. Nobody said the whole male population nor are you validated for representing the entire male population. Lesbians are your experience, leave it there. Scientific research is debatable and extremely subjective. Data doesnāt include Cosmopolitan or Google. However, im not up for your debates. I gave my opinion on the op thread and wont let you sway mine or anyones opinion and freedom of thoughts and speech. You have nothing to defend so relax, and should not feel you have to nor argue to validate yourself. I trust your opinion is real to you. Trust mine is and the other women who didnāt seem to fit your statistics numbers. |
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