► dollMaker wrote:
I agree, even though some may have actually earned this in say a leather background (which does give it value) I would hold off using any honorific in a nick name till you figure out if its self appointed by a legend in their own lunch time type, vs someone who actually deserves that title.
You had me smiling with “self appointed by a legend in their own lunch time” because it is so true.
► dollMaker wrote:
Plenty will push back against this, showing indignation that someone would dare not to use their title, often siting it as a mark of respect to do so, as will plenty of old quard types bemoaning the drop in standards and way things used to be. In my book respect is earned not just blindly given, so only give it if its deserved outside of any dynamic you get involved in, within, titles are between you and whomever you get involved with, something to be discussed and agreed to.
It reminds me of the four decades of training I have put into learning and developing skills and then learning to teach. When I meet someone who isn’t my student, they simply call me by my name, because I am not their teacher. Some who aren’t students of mine use my honorific out of respect, but I would be just as happy with less. Because sometimes it’s an honor to be able to use someone’s title as a way of denoting the relationship. (Ie. My students call me teacher because they are my students - we are both in the dynamic. To a great degree, they have earned the right to call me that as much a I’ve earned the right to be called it) We can respect the level of dedication many have put in their art or skill, and hopefully they won’t be insulted should we decide they may be a most excellent Master - they just aren’t necessarily OUR master.
Great discussion!