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CarmenZ
1 year ago • Oct 12, 2023
CarmenZ • Oct 12, 2023
no one is demonizing anyone.

I asked a question and so far no one has answered it
Irish123​(dom male)
1 year ago • Oct 12, 2023
Irish123​(dom male) • Oct 12, 2023
CarmenZ wrote:
no one is demonizing anyone.

I asked a question and so far no one has answered it

I like it for the control, the rush of power I feel when I have my hand around the throat. I can control her head and force her to look at me as I do what I want to her. Mind you this is all in an accepted BDSM dynamic
aradialspire​(dom femme)
1 year ago • Oct 12, 2023
aradialspire​(dom femme) • Oct 12, 2023
CarmenZ wrote:
@Bunnie

thanx for your detailed explanation. I noted you like being slapped in the face which is consensual on your part.

Consent doesn't always mean consent. Here an example:

There is a guy in Germany called Armin Meiwes who also had a kink. His fetish was eating human flesh. His 'play partner' Juergen Brandes consented and died the same day.

Armin Meiwes fried and ate his body......all 'consensual' of course.


( just saying )


Carmenz, you are implying that anyone that doesn't do the things you think are okay are unable to consent. You are comparing someone allowing themselves being choked or slapped in the face during a consensual sex act to someone committing suicide by cannibal. These things are so far removed from one another it is has fallen into the realm of absurdity.

This is not a good faith argument. Someone responded to your question in good faith, someone who is on that side of things and feels that they are of sound mind and able to consent to activities that you find egregious. You dismissed them with *cannibalism*.

Please keep in mind the term YKINMK (Your Kink is Not My Kink). Just because something is not for you, doesn't automatically make it sick or wrong. Plenty of us are out here doing things that the dominant culture would find morally or ethically questionable. You do not get to decide what is okay and what is not okay for hypothetical women who are vulnerable and you definitely don't get to decide what an actual woman participating in these acts can do either.

What happened between Armin Meiwes and his victim was murder. It was not kink or fetish. Kinks and fetishes are play, they are prenegotiated acts that happen within the realm of fantasy. Armin Meiwes is a murderer. I see Armin Meiwes brought up all the time in arguments against the LGBTQ+ community, the kink community, about how our degeneracy can only end one way ("The wages of sin are death" type shit.) but I never thought I'd see someone bring it up INSIDE the community. Please don't adopt their arguments, it's gross.
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CarmenZ
1 year ago • Oct 12, 2023
CarmenZ • Oct 12, 2023
"or the control, the rush of power I feel when I have my hand around the throat"


thank you for the honest answer.


ps. do you slap or punch her in the face too ?
Sincorrigible​(sub female)
1 year ago • Oct 12, 2023
Sincorrigible​(sub female) • Oct 12, 2023
Bit of a straw man argument I think. Your point re consent.

You don't like it. We get that. But you aren't listening to those of us who are saying that people have kinks you don't like. And what does it matter to you?

Most people into bdsm do get consent and play nicely. Just like in the vanilla world. There are always going to be a few people who play/act in what we might consider an insane way.

I see people behave every single damn day in a way I wouldn't. They weren't put on this planet to behave the way I think they ought to.
Irish123​(dom male)
1 year ago • Oct 12, 2023
Irish123​(dom male) • Oct 12, 2023
CarmenZ wrote:
"or the control, the rush of power I feel when I have my hand around the throat"


thank you for the honest answer.


ps. do you slap or punch her in the face too ?

I don't because she's not ok with that. See negotiation. I do slap her breasts, pussy, and ass however.
CarmenZ
1 year ago • Oct 12, 2023
CarmenZ • Oct 12, 2023
@araldiaspire

"What happened between Armin Meiwes and his victim was murder. It was not kink or fetish"

yes it was, it was EXACTLY that and Brandes consented. They met on a fetish for especially for those that indulge in this kind of fetish
Irish123​(dom male)
1 year ago • Oct 12, 2023
Irish123​(dom male) • Oct 12, 2023
I believe once your dead you can no longer consent. Remember a lot of what we do is illegal in many places still. Even between consenting adults.
aradialspire​(dom femme)
1 year ago • Oct 12, 2023
aradialspire​(dom femme) • Oct 12, 2023
CarmenZ wrote:
@araldiaspire

"What happened between Armin Meiwes and his victim was murder. It was not kink or fetish"

yes it was, it was EXACTLY that and Brandes consented. They met on a fetish for especially for those that indulge in this kind of fetish


And you omitted what I wrote right after that, which I find very telling: Kinks and fetishes are play, they are prenegotiated acts that happen within the realm of fantasy.

What happened between Armin and his victim was not a fantasy, he was a murderer. The fact that his victim consented is irrelevant, no one can consent to being murdered and eaten. There is a gulf of difference between a woman that wants to engage in impact play during consensual sex and murder.

I personally don't engage in impact play of any sort, but I'm not going to tell others what they can and can't do. It's not my place to do so. We do not have that right. I wish you could understand how damaging the argument you're making here is, comparing consensual sex acts to a man murdering and eating a mentally unwell man. They are not the same.
Purĕ​(sub female)
1 year ago • Oct 12, 2023
Purĕ​(sub female) • Oct 12, 2023
CarmenZ wrote:
yep, but I do note there is a big difference between spanking and slapping. There is a massive difference between the 2.


A massive difference ? I would be curious where the difference for You is.

For me a slap is with the palm of the hand onto the face or Boobs.
Spanking is in my eyes normally with the palm of the hand on my ass,thighs,...

So for me not tooo much of a difference besides the area which is affected.

choking and strangling, yeah, big difference. dangerous difference. choking normally "just" cuts off the AIRflow to the lungs, while strangling stops the BLOODflow to the Brain. Which can quickly result in permanent damage. (same also when someone inexperienced begins with choking and squeezes the front of the neck/throat)