tallslenderguy(other male)
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4 years ago •
Nov 11, 2020
4 years ago •
Nov 11, 2020
i find this a vast topic, but i'll try not to be too 'vast' in my response lol (thank you for your indulgence). Some of my thoughts.
i'm a gay total bottom with some sub who was also married to a woman for 31 years (wrong relgious culture for me lol) and 'played' the role of a top. So i have experience and a lot of time and energy spent looking at and experiencing this sort of stuff.
It wasn't till after i was married that is was able to understand and articulate that i wanted and needed much of the same things my former wife needed and wanted (she too was a bottom with some sub). i am still fascinated by how some things can cross assumed gender barriers, and i am neither 'fem' nor a trans person, i'm a guy who needs to be penetrated. And that need is so much more than physical.
One of the things i learned married to a woman was, in many respects, she did not need me to make her orgasm. She could climb on top and totally control the fuck to where it was hitting all her right spots. Iow, she could assume the role of a "top' who takes the responsibility for both her and her bottoms orgasm. i learned early on in our marriage to control my orgasm and can count on one hand the number of times i came before her, and we had sex easily 5x a week or more, so 'premature' ejaculation was not an issue (so to speak). But that didn't really matter, because she was a bottom with quite a bit of sub in her, and what she needed was a Top with some dom in him... and i was neither. All of this is retrospective insight, neither of us understood at the time, we were simply incompatible. Well, maybe complexly incompatible.
All that to say, i think it takes compatibility to give a full orgasm... and by that, i mean an emotional and mental orgasm to go along with the physical. i was really good at giving my former wife orgasms, to the point she'd beg me to stop at times because there were too many. But, i understand now, that those were all physical orgasms. After a point, she began to express the desire (need?) for me to "just take her" without any regard to whether she came or not. And to me, that is a sort of central difference between Top/bottom, D/s. As i understand it, part of (central too?) a Top/Doms need/desire is to control, and part of a bottom/subs need/desire is to be under their Top/Doms control. For me, this especially applies to orgasm because i am primarily a sexual bottom/sub, though it overlaps into other parts of my life.
That, to me, is foundational to your question. i cannot figure out from your profile or your question where you are on 'the spectrum.' You seem 'versatile' or 'switch,' but i am only speculating. If you are, that to me is one of the more challenging dispositions (but thats because i am total bottom lol). i usually won't even hook with a versatile guy, and would most likely not consider a exclusive relationship with anyone but a total Top.
The challenge i see for a versatile person, one who can be truly dom or sub is timing. If you can truly be one or the other (i.e., it is not "role play," but how you actually are at that time). When you are in sub mode, i believe you NEED a dom. i'm gonna go a step further and speculate that you need a relational dom, not just an occasional or hook up dom. i say that because you strike me as someone who needs to be intensely emotionally engaged to have an orgasm. For me, i can make my body have an orgasm, but withot a connection to a Top/Dom, it is a 'ruined' orgasm for me, it leaves me physically spent and emotionally 'horny' and in need of connection with a Top/Dom. i think if you are in sub mode, you need a Dom to surface submission in you.
i also wonder (again, pure speculation here) that you may be more sub than you realize? That maybe "dom" is a role that you have assumed and played for so long that you are functionally dom, but not emotionally dom? If this is the case, i think if you had an understanding (and probably experienced) Dom who 'sees' you, they would be able to surface the sub in you as well as control your orgasm.
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