TopekaDom wrote:
Punishment, within the lifestyle, is something that has been perverted.
In my not so humble opinion.
In reality, it is something done to correct a behavior that is wrong in a given relationship.
Now I get s types want to be spanked, or flogged or whipped, or the myid of other physical stimuli and that is great. But when done in a positive fashion, that is not punishment. Now some people will use the term "Funishment", however I think that term is obscene. If you enjoy it, then it is not punishment. That is scening. It is not corrective measures.
Punishment is not something you should enjoy. It is something painful so you will not engage in the same behavior again.
When I have to, and I don't like it any better than the s type, I use emotional punishments. I start with "I am disappointed in you" and work my way up from that. I don't use physical punishments. Emotional ones hit harder.
I get where you're coming from and I'm not sure exactly where I stand on this either, because I have mixed opinions. This is where my difficulty lies.
Everyone participating is doing so consensually, presumably for their happiness. If I consent to a spanking for any reason and it's used as a corrective measure but I enjoy it, then I agree it's not really a punishment because it isn't corrective. The problem is if it's so painful I won't want to engage in that behaviour again, it's almost certainly where my limit lies, which effectively means withdrawal of consent. That would mean never being punished.
Maybe others are different, consenting to punishments that lie outside pleasure but still within their limits.
Like I say, I get your point and agree to a large extent but I don't know how you reconcile it with where people's pleasure and pain limits for consent are almost the same.