Rose's Thorns.

Loulou​(sub female) - I imagine there will be apps or things on word

SchrodingersDinosaur​(switch female){N/a} - I assume you are thinking non-fiction, Rose?

rosethorn​(sub female) - I am, I was thinking of doing a thriller (non gory) but with all female characters

rosethorn​(sub female) - fiction.

rosethorn​(sub female) - made up untrue of course

rosethorn​(sub female) - why cant you edit comments afterwards, stupid typo

MasterBear​(other butch) - Depends on what your writing. Have you developed your story ARC yet?

rosethorn​(sub female) - Im wondering if I should write now after that typo lol. The idea is to have a female type dexter but with less gore and a girl with the dragon tattoo style character but more bound by the law. The idea is to have the opening with the murder having just been …. and the main bad woman (I seriously do not want a femfetale, the good characters in thriller stories who are men are methodical I want the same but a woman) then a chase going on (this is essentially the ending), so that's the first chapter, you then have the background and how it lead upto that chase or both the bad and good woman. I sort of want to do a 180 degree flip on the situation. I like reading thrillers and its a book I have been looking for but have never sort of found so I thought I might have a go at writing it instead.

rosethorn​(sub female) - *of not or

SchrodingersDinosaur​(switch female){N/a} - Interesting idea Rose! If you aren't familiar with what MB is mentioning, it's kind of like an outline. That's actually what I was going to recommend if you were thinking non-fiction as well. I haven't written fiction in a very long time but do a ton of nonfiction and the technique is the same. Imagine you are telling someone the overview of the story - not the details though. First this happens, then they go here, then do that. I actually will chart it out...I'm visual anyway though. I use Post-It notes to capture each then group and arrange on a wall or desk. Helps me 'see' the flow. Hope that might help!

MasterBear​(other butch) - Ok.

As you write your breaks will start to formulate themselves.

You will get a feel for it.

Then as you work with an editor, they can suggest breaks as well.


Your flow will come as you write. Continuity will help you also know when to break up chapters.

Transitions are great reasons to break. Transitions in emotional feels, time, place.
All great places to put in a break.


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rosethorn​(sub female) - Thank you for the advice, I get the story logically but not how to do the back and forth. The ARC is very rough and will likely change but essentially its based of women of old who used to hunt men during wars and worked as spies.

rosethorn​(sub female) - So the idea is it does a 180 flip at the end.

MasterBear​(other butch) - Delineate your back and forth. Use chapters or italicize the back but not the forth.

rosethorn​(sub female) - I love that idea thank you, im still debating whether to set it in WW2 or not. So write in linner but label the sections and re order it at the end.

MasterBear​(other butch) - It sounds amazing btw!!

MasterBear​(other butch) - Also-- full blank pages between back and forth help prompt the understanding to the reader.

As well as delineating the back and forth with sections instead of chapters.


A great book to look at that does excellent back and forth flow Is "the wolfs hour". By McCammon

rosethorn​(sub female) - Thank you, I will have to give that a read. Thanks im just writing it for me tho. :)

MasterBear​(other butch) - That doesn't mean that you dont want it perfect. And who knows--- I look forward to saying " I knew you when"

rosethorn​(sub female) - Haha awww your too kind, I always wanted to read a book like that so I will give it a go, thank you for the advice, I haven't written before. (you know what I mean)

MasterBear​(other butch) - I've been there. That's what got me writing books.

I wanted to read what I couldn't find.

It was the basis for M/s for the rest of us.

I got sick of reading about how bdsm was only do able if your rich and body- able.


Through the bad patch was about a butch on the receiving end of domestic violence.


So YOU GO

rosethorn​(sub female) - I get fed up with reading the same BS about BDSM too. The truth is the community is in a seriously vulnerable position as we cant be open it means others can hide. Thanks for your support and advice

SchrodingersDinosaur​(switch female){N/a} - My last fiction outing was born out of the same frustration. It was a female protagonist in my career field who was a kind of a female Dirk Pitt (one of Clive Cussler's heroes) but with more of a sexy sexually liberated component than Cussler's adventures. Had it outlined out to a trilogy and had most of one together and pieces of the following two started but haven't even thought about it in years. Might just have to dig it out again!

rosethorn​(sub female) - I think you should :)