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Longer-Term D/s Considerations

Things unseen often affect relationships. This is a (perhaps infrequent) chance to look at some of them through the lens of a decade or more of online experiences with a variety of submissive partners.
5 years ago. July 15, 2018 at 3:27 PM

  More often than I care to remember, issues stemming from girlhood or early teen years have impacted a sub's ability to fully savor the range of experiences often a part of a healthy Dom/sub relationship.  For my first post  I'd like to pick at the edges of one set of those experiences --religious training and strictures --and seek some advice.

  Not every submisive is afflicted with the longer term lingering fears of what may have been drilled into them as girls, but a good number carry the harmful emotional scars of early "Good Girls Don't" insitutional training  through their lives.  These teaching, and threats of what happens to girls who 'sin' in various ways, seem to be forced to the forefront  later on in facing submissive tasks.  Perhaps staying within a vanilla life might not require re-examining such teachings,  but active submission can seem to .

  Things as basic as attitudes calling nudity, masturbation or other self-touching 'sinful acts',  can cripple full enjoyment, perhaps especially in online relationships where the Dom's hands and actions are of necessity carried out by the sub's hands. More intimate activites can be even more troubling to a sub raised in an  environment of sinful admonitions, such as perhaps in some girls' religious schools.  Yes, these can serve a limited good end to control a young girl's perhaps unwise early sexual explorings.  In later life, though, they can resurface to cripple what most in our community might consider as healthy sexual activities and satisfaction.

  I've encountered this often enough to not be surprised when, with a new partner,  these old fears of being 'bad' or of 'going to Hell' sooner or later need to be addressed together.  Often, the new sub is deliberately trying to overcome those early barriers, not realizing how deeply they are embedded.   Others are not fully aware of the subconscious barriers placed deeply in their minds.  When these issues arise, though,  it becomes the Dom's role to respect the power of those early church teachings, which might have been reinforced by parent or teen peers as well.

Working through this emotional minefield is never easy with such an emotionally scarred sub.  I hope I have helped come to a healthier place in most cases, but working alone, I'm never sure.

I'd much appreciate the reflections of subs who've faced these issues, about what was helpful to them in getting past them.

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I have NO interest in discussing here any religion or its belief set or training practices--live and let live. All are entitled to whatever faith they may embrace. I only seek to better assist subs dealing with personal issues they must come to grips with as they explore in the D/s world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

T slave​(sub female){Owned} - This is a very interesting topic. Fortunately i was raised without such an upbringing of oppressing my sexuality but to embrace the beauty of a healthy sexual appetite. It will be interesting to hear from those who's upbringing was as you have questioned.
5 years ago
Bunnie - Very interesting topic, Cap’n Rick... I’m wondering if you might feel comfortable posting this in forums as well, to reach those who don’t read blogs (?) I myself don’t have personal experience with this, however I’m very interested in following the discussion.
5 years ago
CapnRick​(dom male) - Thanks Bunny, for the suggestion (and thanks to T and Nikita, too )--- I'm on the road for a couple of days so can't re-post this now, or however it might be moved into the Forum... If you really think it is a topic that would get read and open a discussion there, I'll give it some thought when I am home again. Or you could give it a mention on Forum if that is appropriate and maybe others will find it here. I'm brand new to this Blog stuff.
5 years ago
Bunnie - It’s ok, a lot of people will find it here :)
5 years ago
Sybil - Growing up in a very religious household/family I completely understand this topic. This is and probably still in many ways a clutch I’ve dealt with most of my life. I think everything that kept me from pursuing the BDSM lifestyle in general for many years has come from the stigma left by my religious upbringing. Clearly I’m over most of it now but I mention this in a blog before but I’m still dealing with the notion of having more than one sexual partner at the same time just because of the {slut, whorish stigma place on it}.

Not to mention the whole being attracted to girls, you could just imagine how that played out in the church. Think they preformed an exorcism to remove the demon that possess me {not literally but definitely felt like it}. This is no longer an issue nor do I feel like something is wrong with me because I find women bodies attractive.

With all of my bible lessons and teachings the one thing no Sunday school teacher was successful in doing was convincing me that a woman should be submissive a man. I still remember the ass whipping I got from telling the teacher. Correction the Bible does not say a woman should submit to a male but that a wife is to submit to her husband keyword there is wife but I’m never getting married so I don’t have to worry about that. I have ended whole relationship because the idea of getting married and submitting to a man was so obsolete to me. I still don’t have the desire to be married but my reasoning no longer has to do with submission.

I can definitely see how a religious upbringing can hinder a BSDM relationship if not addressed. I think what help me cope with the continuous struggle of balancing the things I grow up thinking was wrong or shame for is being self aware. I am no longer ashamed or feel guilty for exploring my desires. Self awareness and self understanding was key for me.

5 years ago
CapnRick​(dom male) - Food for thought, Sybil --Thanks. I've heard from a couple others directly confirming the idea that self awareness, self understanding are central to overcoming those instilled prohibitions and shaming. I've heard from one religiously-schooled woman absolutely convinced her body was to be ashamed of, until she learned there was noting about her which called for any shame at all. And I learned that some sects of a Utah-based religion are taught to wear full coverage 'undergarments' to hide their bodies.....not sure how widespread THAT practice is, but it gave me pause.
5 years ago
Finished​(switch female) - It’s funny, but because I was raised within a religious upbringing it actually enhances my appreciation of the Dom/sub relationship and expression of sexuality. Not that I think that my church would condone some of our practices, but the ritualistic nature of both, the submission of self to a controlling but care-taking “father figure”, the tantalizing forbidden fruit of our baser nature mixed with the soaring spirit of connection, empathy and forgiveness and acceptance. Don’t mistake me, my religion still has a long way to go in dealing with sexuality in its official policies — but if it would only listen to its own heart and the message it conveys, perhaps they wouldn’t be so screwed up with all the issues they face. Luckily, I had some very enlightened and progressive school teachers along the way who talked about sexuality during grade school and high school in very healthy terms, especially when it came to masturbation, so I haven’t (thankfully) had to deal with this. Also, I seriously have to credit TV and Oprah and shows like hers in the 80s and 90s who tackled women’s issues, especially sexuality and I have to say I took them to heart.
5 years ago

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