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2 years ago. August 1, 2022 at 8:47 PM

 

A random thought popped into my head recently.

Most doms or masters I have spoken to want their subs or slaves naked at all times while at home.
I dont like being naked. Mostly because I do not think my form is attractive.

So I have come up with something of a compromise.

I dont know if this is something a master or dom would agree to or not. Let me know in the comments.

Paper clothing.

They're also not very comfortable.

I'm not sure if a potential dom or master would agree to such a compromise.


What are ya'lls thoughts?

balloonkotinsp - I am of the mindset that this is something that can compromised on. Perhaps your vision of yourself will change over time. If your Dom is supportive and loving. Hope so
2 years ago
WhatamIfightingfor​(dom male){CurvyB} - If he does not want you for you, it is not going to work. Also depends on lifestyle, the more outdoors lifestyle requires clothes, for safety.
2 years ago
Literate Lycan​(dom male) - I agree with balloonkotinsp above, but most Dominants and many Masters who are actually in the lifestyle 24/7 aren't necessarily about the full time nudity. You should grow to feel comfortable in your skin around within the confines of your dynamic. The dynamic is your safe space. So although I can see that if your dynamic is about causing the submissive or slave to be uncomfortable then paper clothing might be an interesting addition as would requiring full-time nudity if the submissive is averse to being nude. I also think that one of the greatest benefits of the dynamic is exploring boundaries so you can feel comfortable within so that would be something a good Dominant would work with you on if that is something you wish to overcome. Slowly helping you feel comfortable within the safety of the dynamic and your Dominant so that you can walk around naked. My initial position: if a majority of the individuals you are speaking with have full time nudity of the submissive or slave as a hard rule, I shake my head and grin. It tells me where in the "lifestyle" they are focusing.
2 years ago
IowaDom​(dom male) - Simply put, I believe that all aspects of a dynamic are set in place by both parties, SAFE, SANE, CONSENSUAL. period. Anybody trying to take the high road in a dicktatorial (intentional) manner, deserves the low boot.
2 years ago
ursa​(sub female) - Interesting thoughts.

I have the same experience/concerns.... 24 hour nudity is not something I am comfortable with, so if it is commanded of me, what do I do? My first thought was to just balk at this, come up with another compromise - paper clothing is not something I considered, but I had thought that maybe He gets to choose which clothing I wear at home, maybe working my way up to more revealing or uncomfortable clothes, or maybe just have this for punishments instead of all of the time, something like that.

However, I did (eventually) end up coming to a different conclusion. The fact that I disliked the idea enough made it all the more important for me to try this as an act of submission to my Master. However, this is only something I would do for my Master of over a year, not something that I would agree to with a new Dom or partner. My Master has invested a lot of time and love in me, and my agreement to be nude in His presence would be a reflection of that love and time. I think the right Dom can help lead you to a place of greater comfort with your body as mine has with me, but as others have pointed out, limits (both hard and soft) are to be respected. I think that Doms who come to a new dynamic expecting their laundry list of requests to be carried out right away are coming to a dynamic with a poor attitude - they should be eager to learn about you before they can really ask anything from you. With the right person, there will be many ways for you to express your submission in your own way - perhaps with such a creative option as paper clothing.
2 years ago
Bogs​(dom male) - My reason for the nudity is more with trust than anything else. Than again I allow/ prescribe clothing depending on the situation. In a true power exchange your self- opinion shouldn't matter more than your Masters. Perhaps if your uncomfortable than either your commitment is lacking or your doubting your Master.
2 years ago
Lazuli - This motherfucker just really said if you have insecurities you’re lacking!🤣 #dickhead
2 years ago
Bogs​(dom male) - Actually...... I said the commitment was lacking. I also don't see where I mentioned insecurity anywhere in my comment. Everyone has them, not really something I think needs to be pointed out. If you are okay with using them as an excuse..... well yeah.....
2 years ago
IowaDom​(dom male) - So in your world, a sub, not in a current dynamic, has no right to expect the rules to be consensual? She or he, should not expect to have any part or say so in the dynamics rules? and if she does expect to be part of the rules creation her commitment is lacking? The OP never said TPE, she asked if we thought a Dom or Master might agree to a compromise to accommodate her desires.
2 years ago
Bogs​(dom male) - There is always give and take in anything. You have to have good and bad to have balance. My point was more so that if that element was part of the dynamic that you entered into than to be true to the dynamic you'd need to work through your issues. She didn't mention tpe in the post, but she mentions it often in her profile.
2 years ago
IowaDom​(dom male) - Oh, thats totally a different story imho. If it was part of an agreed upon dynamic, then there would need to be a very good reason to want to change it, but.... there could be reasons (triggers etc). Barring that, if both do not stick to their agreements and commitments, whats the point of going on?
2 years ago
Bogs​(dom male) - Triggers are no justification to not do something. They do modify how you do things as you tend to need to resolve/ modify the trigger first, but doing that builds trust and momentum for further growth. Personally I don't break my word once made. But that's also why most can't deal with me.
2 years ago
Lazuli - Comment deleted by poster.
2 years ago
Lazuli - once you say yes to this guy, no doesn’t exist! Ridiculous.
2 years ago
Lazuli - Most people do have issues with someone who believes that consent doesn’t expire.
2 years ago
Bogs​(dom male) - I state from the beginning of talking to anyone that is my way. It's started clarified and many times over known. If they wish to bounce they do I get ghosted often, but if they stay they are doing so with that understanding. I don't consent situational or till I don't like. I expect the same.
2 years ago
Bogs​(dom male) - Should I take your statement as you only see black and white? That there is no Grey or fluidity in your life? My condolences if so.
2 years ago
Literate Lycan​(dom male) - So in the spirit of discussion, I’m going to chime in my thoughts. OP - apologize for the sideways discussion.

The OP indicated her reasons for shying away from constant nudity are self-image. She didn’t indicate she wouldn’t go naked, just that most Doms/Masters she communicates with seem to have that in their initial requirements (it would seem - I am paraphrasing). Whatever you decide within your dynamic is great -it’s part of the getting to know one another and negotiation. Some like going au natural and find being told to do so liberating. Others avoid it and through a healthy relationship can come to terms with their body and learn to enjoy it. Others it might be a hard limit. Prior to consenting to something, especially something that might trigger an individual or cause anxiety, it is up to the Dominant and the dynamic to work through - just like any soft limit that perhaps “they” decide they want to overcome.

Since the OP isn’t in a relationship, I wouldn’t say her commitment is lacking or she doubts a Master who doesn’t exist. She did specifically say “I don’t like being naked. Mostly because I don’t think my form is attractive.” It sounds like she would enjoy commitment and could come to trust a Master in the right circumstances. She is asking a good question.

I would personally say triggers are absolutely a reason for not doing something. Although I am not a trained clinical psychologist nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express, from what I have seen and heard and experienced, you can literally cause damage if you don’t take them into consideration. I agree with a great deal of the rest of what you posted. You do modify how you do things based upon potential triggers. There is always give and take as you evolve into the dynamic. And if something is part of the dynamic you agreed to enter, there should be plenty of healthy communication if one of the two doesn’t want to partake of something. Rules help develop and stabilize a healthy dynamic. Interesting discussion.
2 years ago
Bogs​(dom male) - Personally I find triggers a motivator to do things. I'd rather be the one in control than the triggers. As I said it takes working through things you can't just go after all triggers day one you have to build up. But I do always state it's something that will be happening. To me this isn't something I do as a hobby. It's how I live my life. There are power exchange all over, it's one of the constants of life. I just enjoy going to a more extreme level with it. It's not for everyone I'm sure, and those are not the people i have in my life. If someone wants to be involved with me they will have to learn to embrace it. I have the skills and knowledge to train them as long as they are sincere in the desire to be molded.
2 years ago
ursa​(sub female) - I also apologize for encouraging this conversation a little sideways... but I think Literate Lycan makes a good point for anyone reading this. Damage can be caused if triggers aren't taken into consideration. That doesn't mean that potentially triggering activities can NEVER be approached in a loving and stable dynamic, but yeah... asking a new submissive to immediately overcome a potentially triggering situation during a first meeting with them... that's just not going to be fun for the parties involved.

I think this is something that subs should be encouraged to do - be aware of your limits, be aware of what triggers you, communicate them with potential partners, explore alternatives and be creative with them.
2 years ago
CanBiWife​(dom female) - Paper clothing … what a clever idea 💡
2 years ago
Kurai Mori​(dom male) - Paper clothing??? Hmm... no, hard pass, too many memories of doing oil spill clean ups in Tyvek papersuits. If you are outdoors, then there needs to be clothes. And unless you are crazy - snow and bare body parts don't go well together. I did it once, never again and that was only walking barefoot in the snow... I think you can wear revealing without wearing nothing... there are styles of clothes that permit exposure, without giving up coverage. Mesh for example... openly knit items of clothing, or loosely knit... sheer??
Or simply make them use their imagination... good god man, I have an imagination - let me use it...
1 year ago

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