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subbottomgoodboy​(sub male){No collar }
4 years ago • May 27, 2020
Obviously it’s never forced. Hahaha. But the role play of being forced is very hot! Being pushed or led by a dom woman to suck another mans cock is a deep fetish fantasy for me, one that’s bigger than mine, as well as the one cock that gets to be inside my wife since my dom places me in chastity, which leads to no longer being allowed inside my wife and you deep down really want to suck it especially if it’s the only way to taste your wife’s juices is off him due to your also “forced” chastity. Plus Being pushed a bit by my wife in front of him makes it easier to become the bi slut I am as I can ease into it and not look too desperate for it, as much as I love humiliation and pleasing my dom and her lovers sometimes it’s also more comfortable for the man as being the slut I want to be and just dropping to my knees without warning and begging for it may put the Alpha off. In my experience the Alpha enjoys me slowly succumbing to my wife’s “demands” and helps feed his ego by me slowly inching toward it till it hits my lips and I start kissing it and caressing his balls. (I love big hung balls slapping my wife’s pussy or my chin) I look him in the eye so he knows he’s in charge and That I won’t interfere with him taking my wife. So really it’s all the role play of forced. But reality is i love sucking cock and would do it without any pressure. Especially if it’s black. I really love how their cocks look and preform. But yeah, no... please mistress don’t make me do this.. yes my little penis is hard in my panties, but not for him.. Don’t make me. Yes, it’s big.. Yes I want to watch you with him, but please whatever you do don’t make me suck that hard gorgeous cock!! Hahaha
subbottomgoodboy​(sub male){No collar }
4 years ago • May 27, 2020

Subs job?

Byrdie wrote:
I get contacted by a lot of white men who want me to "force" them to perform oral sex on a stable of shy, bi-curious black men I was assigned with my "Congratulations! You've Identified as a Domme!" starter pack.

Now, if the packet had just provided an address to this stable, I'd be all set. Does the Association that shipped it ever return my emails? No!


As a cuckold I’ve always felt it was my duty to provide the stable. It’s fun, and you get to hear what type of man your wife really wants to fuck. None of the size doesn’t matter bs. But real sexy intimate details of her sexuality. I lie hearing about men she likes and what size she likes, and then I can find bulls for her. My ex loved thuggish black men with large cocks. Hearing he tell me how wet and weak she really gets for them makes me almost cum in my pants untouched.
Once I find my forever mistress I will be sure to have some lined up and ready.
tallslenderguy​(other male)
4 years ago • May 27, 2020
MissBonnie wrote:
Just for clarification, I don't force anything. I seduce consent to something they secretly already want to do. .


To me, MissBonnie nails this.

i've been thinking of a similar topic for years, i.e., "humiliation" and why it has appeal on both sides for some of us?

i recently put the pieces of the puzzle together and think i understand what is often happening. i know/knew there is a form of "humiliation" that is a deep erotic need in me, but the word "humiliation" doesn't quite fit for me because it leaves an opening for the mean, hateful, bullying intents that can similarly be behind the "force" so many identify in this thread. i came up with the word "affectionate humiliation" to try and give a different connotation to the word. Still "affectionate humiliation" was/is a stumbling block, just a smaller one. But saying it that way usually gives opportunity or pause for further explanation. Some end up getting and others do not. i also have a need/desire for 'grooming,' a word that also has a very negative association, but for me is a form of consented seduction that happens on a very subtle level.

What i think is happening is "force, humiliation, grooming, ____________, etc.," fall into a category of taboo. Most of us here have discovered that we fall outside the so called "norm." But we are conditioned from an early age that who and how we are is "wrong, bad, broken, evil, perverted, sinful, sick, __________." i think this sets up a list of negative emotional, cognitive, psychological responses to who and what we actually are. i.e., the reality of who and what we are is in conflict with what we have been conditioned to belief 'should be.'

In this case, a person may be bisexual and has the needs and wants of a bisexual, but also has the internal (and maybe some external) culturally conditioned barriers against who and what they are, want and need. i think the "force" is really past those barriers, not against who or what that person is or needs.

The other half of this for me is something several brought up, and that is the connection of mutual need/want. The connection of mutual want/need, not just a one sided need/want being catered too.

Some of the 'natural' attributes i think make a "Dom" are the needs/desires for control, to put Their Self and creative energy into, to penetrate, inseminate, impregnate, are a few of the words that i use to describe a "Dom," and that push my buttons. As a sub, my needs/desires correspond to those of a Dom, to submit control, etc.. To me, it's a manifestation of nature, sort of like positive ions attracted to negative ions that form a bond when there is 'chemistry.'
Humans are more complex than ions. We have things like emotion and society affecting us, things we have to "force" past to get free. i think the "force" can be against the prison walls that often surround us.
Ocelotgoddess
4 years ago • May 27, 2020
Ocelotgoddess • May 27, 2020
One most certainly can be forced. Without consent. As we all know it is called rape. It is real and it does happen. There is edging, and there is force. When you say force Demon I imagine this to be as stated previously abuse or rape or edging.
Djini and Miss B. Hit some very strong reasons why I would want to see individuals I know and hope I could trust watching cultivate a deepened level of intamacy together. However to the comment made by M. Bear I would say this... In this instance if I felt forced to have to do something for a man in any context... I would have no problem retaliating with this as a punishment if they feel humiliation, that would be their own mind and teachings that could be expanded and opened slowly or quickly.
DemonstricusRed​(sub male)
4 years ago • Jun 29, 2020
DemonstricusRed​(sub male) • Jun 29, 2020
I've come to understand that what I call being forced, is not a forced act at all... it is me wanting to be with another guy but needing someone to lead the way and guide me through the steps.

It's me wanting to transfer the responsibility of my decisions onto another.
MissBonnie​(dom female){oz}Verified Account
4 years ago • Jun 29, 2020
MissBonnie​(dom female){oz}Verified Account • Jun 29, 2020
that took gutts to admit DemonstricusRed​. Make sure you take the time to think about where you go with this next step. don't rush into anything...do so with a clear head.
tallslenderguy​(other male)
4 years ago • Jun 29, 2020
MissBonnie wrote:
Just for clarification, I don't force anything. I seduce consent to something they secretly already want to do.


i loved everything You wrote/written in this response, but particularly wanted to isolate this comment because it's the exact words i use/have used to try and explain what i look for/need/want from a Dom.... and it seems rare. For me, the process (that word is way to clinical to describe something so intimate) is almost like 'grooming' with consent.

Many of my fantasies have the component of me being asleep when my Top/Dom penetrates me. i think that speaks to a psychological need/want in me for "seduction' because it's not something i would want without consent. It does speak to a deep level of trust for me, to give someone consent to 'penetrate' me while i'm asleep (i.e., initiate penetration, i'd likely wake up). i see that as a physical expression of seduction. i identify myself as more "bottom" than "sub" and i think it's because i've been partly conditioned by those who frequently seem to want to define sub for me rather than understand what sub is for me, people who want to use a form of force vs seduction. In my wiring, probably my biggest 'sub' attribute is the need/want to be penetrated. The physical is only one angle of that.

To me, what MissBonnie so eloquently describes, is not just physical penetration, but psychological penetration-"mind fuck." For me, the biggest qualifier, or defining attribute, that i look for in a Top/Dom, is their natural drive to create, affect, influence, control. i see "penetration" (and again, physical is only a part of this) as the first step of this.

i think sex in it's most basic form is a good example because sex involves penetration with the intent to inseminate and impregnate. But humans have the capacity to take that to a whole different level because we are thinking and emotional beings, not just physical. i see the D/s dynamic as a means for each to express their natures on not just a physical level, but psychologically as well. I.e., psychologically penetrating, inseminating and impregnating, so to speak.

Germaine to the discussion and the question of the OP, i have known Dom/Top people who so understand Their need/want and the need/wants of certain bottom/subs, that They can meet those needs/wants in many ways. Again, for me, Miss Bonnie so gets this when she describes being able to get Her need/want met through some forms of porn, or watching others together.

On the sub/bottom side of this, i have talked with a few Top/Doms who expressed a wish to 'pimp' me out. i know lots of bottom sluts who just see this as an opportunity to 'get multiple loads.' For me, when a Top/Dom has this desire, i still see it as them penetrating me, even though it is someone else, because key to this scenario is Their control. For me, if my Top/Dom is controlling such a scenario, it's like my Top/Dom is using those people as 'toys' to accomplish His will/desire/need. i'm not focussed or aware of the person inside of me but extremely focused on my Top/Dom watching from the side who is in control and conducting the orchestra.
JRBR
4 years ago • Dec 14, 2020
JRBR • Dec 14, 2020
To the author. Please know that I'm new and maybe should not say anything ok so take it's for what it's worth. I'm not in a relationship and have little experience at anything other than being used.

When I finished reading your post the immediate thought I had was... What about the other guy? Then it was like, well shouldn't the Ds be talking before anything gender crossing happens?

I believe that my act of consent to participate to please someone can cause damage to someone else.

I read an opinion on the excitement of seeing one completely stripped...
To completely lose dignity or defense, no matter how hot it may be is real abuse. Take it from someone that does know and what I believe it's that it would cause both relationships to deteriorate.

I Really liked hearing safe word mentioned and that ultimately someone should exit any situation immediately that safe words are ignored.