OraclePollon(sub female){NotYours}
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3 years ago •
Dec 9, 2020
SubtleHush wrote: You are not a walking throbbing porn video. You are not Mr. Big Dick and all the women want you. You are not some fluffy bunny sex slave floating in a gossamer wings, angelic and magically knowing how to please any man. LOL! Okay couldn't help myself because this is SOOO TRUE! So many people I have met in my age group (30-40's yeah I am calling you out!) are just out of long term relationships or... still in them, and now think they can come here and they have decided they are polygamous and will have 3 girlfriends and just be a playa' or find a slave because they deserve it. No clue... just think that now that they aren't 'saddled' anymore, they can live out some fantasy. That may be kink... but it is not lifestyle. No thanks. |
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Miki(masochist female)
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3 years ago •
Dec 9, 2020
At Ease everybody!! This is a topic highly worthy of adult thought! I for one love being enjoyed by men/ women.. whoever my sex partner might be! I don't judge them any more than I want them to judge me.. Can we or not, keep this topic to what's fair?
For both? Just askin'! |
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SubtleHush(sub female)
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3 years ago •
Dec 9, 2020
OraclePollon:
(SubtleHush wrote: "You are not a walking throbbing porn video. You are not Mr. Big Dick and all the women want you. You are not some fluffy bunny sex slave floating in a gossamer wings, angelic and magically knowing how to please any man.) ....................... "LOL! Okay couldn't help myself because this is SOOO TRUE! So many people I have met in my age group (30-40's yeah I am calling you out!)" (When I started most came to this life in their mid 40's. Younger people who find it before marrying are far better off, but they don't kow the scope of sacrifice many of use gave to be here.) (are just out of long term relationships or... still in them, and now think they can come here and they have decided they are polygamous and will have 3 girlfriends and just be a playa' or find a slave because they deserve it. No clue..." (Yup back in the late 90's it wasn't poly. It was more about being super Dom with a string of s types on your arm, or the slaviest slave alive. But is was thee same. The crash and burn moments were difficult and heaven forbid anyone who said "we tried to tell you not to do that.") "just think that now that they aren't 'saddled' anymore, they can live out some fantasy. That may be kink... but it is not lifestyle. No thanks." (To be fair it is confusing. People come to this and see behaviors and relationship levels far beyond anything they could achieve in vanilla - although I do know a few vanilla couples who either are closeted power exchange or just evolved, because they are as similar in philosophy and proactivity as we are.) (There are just many more of them now. In the end most will walk away disheartened never understanding that anything you are serious about takes personal emotional growth, finesse and of course, time. And time, as you know, can be a heartless bastard.) H* |
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SubtleHush(sub female)
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3 years ago •
Dec 13, 2020
Miki(masochist female)
At Ease everybody!! This is a topic highly worthy of adult thought! I for one love being enjoyed by men/ women.. whoever my sex partner might be! I don't judge them any more than I want them to judge me.. Can we or not, keep this topic to what's fair? For both? Just askin'! ......................... What is fair about adultery? Lots of people cheat on their significant others. And many of them have great reasons for doing it. I worked with a guy who would bed any woman he could. I asked him once why? He said he never really believed in monogamy. He only got married to have children with only one woman. So I asked how she felt about all that and he simply said, she doesn't know. Ten points to him. That isn't fair. And we will never agree on right or wrong, but someone coming to an online community for permission to cheat on his partner or help someone cheat on theirs (just as wrong in my book) is not being fair to that partner. I love the "we have a don't ask don't tell" relationship. Which means don't ask me too many questions, and don't tell my wife. You can get your kicks and play at it all and leave your real world partners out of it. You can't expect those of us in it for real. Who want a partner they can trust, which you wouldn't be, to applaud you. |
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Miki(masochist female)
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3 years ago •
Dec 13, 2020
The thrill is it is not fair.. I never said it was! The Topic is fair, though! And yes, I have slept with married people
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PERITUS ARCUS(dom male)
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3 years ago •
Dec 15, 2020
There definitely people whilo get a buzz by being adulterous.
I came out of a very LTR and I have a regular partner. I wanted to corrupt her. She wanted to be corrupted. Sometimes, she even corrupts me with things I simply didnt see coming. I no longer hold any store in marriage as an institution but thats another story. I certainly never commited under any religious basis.l If she wishes to play with others, she has my total support to do so. In addition, I have said she can tell me or not as she feels fit. I have never been a jealous guy and as a couple, we have no reservations if partners are married or not. The only thing we ask is you are married and do they know or not. .. Everyone we have engaged with is an adult. Nobody we have played with has proved incapable of making their own personal rational decisions. Perhaps I deviate from the norm, but to me, I dont have moral contest in this regard. I am aethiest so there are no religious complexity issues either. There are definitely people who seek adulterous liaisons. Some like the thrill/risk but usually perhaps are the partner that has nothing or little to loose. Others may feel trapped and need an injection wether it is excitement or to be loved again with everything inbetween. Either way, as a decision, be it good or bad... and more likely the latter it is their choice. |
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mikebradsrv(dom male)
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3 years ago •
Dec 17, 2020
OraclePollon wrote: Consensual adultery is definitely a kink... is it really adultery at that point? Mr. Fulmen put it well, when it is transparent and consensual then it is given other names. Hot wife, Cuckhold are some that come to mind.
The "Kink" of adultery, cheating, doing something behind you partner(s) back and the "thrill" that comes with that, is just the sign of an immature and reckless individual. You cannot expect these people to have their shit together and it is appalling. Lying, cheating, hiding and getting your kicks all because your partner is ignorant to it is not condoned in this community, so when these people come slithering in here and try to find a play partner, it is not consensual and not met very accommodatingly. These people are not reliable and should not be in a relationship. It is abuse of the person who does not know, not to mention all the potential dangers you are putting the unaware party in (STD's comes to mind) you lie about one thing, you are bound to lie about others. "Adultery is a Kink" to me is akin to "LYING is a Kink" ... it is not, it is just daft. You put that just right. But some people are just so twisted up in their own pain that they don't see another way to be happy. It's escapism, but they need the escape. Now, others are just assholes.. |
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PERITUS ARCUS(dom male)
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3 years ago •
Dec 17, 2020
MrFulmen wrote: Cuckolding and cuckqueaning are essentially consensual adultery, and they're well-established fetishes with online forums with tens of thousands of members, plenty of points dedicated to them, writeups in mainstream magazines and such.
There are also a lot of people who get turned on specifically by the thought of cheating, and many who act on that. So you could call that a kink. And of those folks, there are some who say "don't kink-shame me," as a way of deflecting judgment of their cheating. But that's silly. The point of not kink-shaming is to refrain from condemning things just because they're kinky. If you get turned on by something that is unethical, that doesn't make it stop being unethical. To becfrank, this is a kink website. Pretty much all activities fall outside what society considers "normal". Who gives one person the right to out anothers predilection and stsnd on some pillar of moral highground. My view is, unless it is illegal or police are in olved, there should be mutual respect of privacy. |
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PERITUS ARCUS(dom male)
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3 years ago •
Dec 17, 2020
There seems to be a confusion between the likes of consensual adultery where all partners are aware and may be active or not present and adultery where one or more partners are unaware.
The later is where the moral tiger lies. The rush you get from such an illicit liaison has to be balanced against the potential tsunami it can cause to others. You may not like it..... but it isnt your decision. If you are not into it, make it clear and that transgression will cause offence and repercussions. I have never been the jealous type. I am happy to see my partner/s ( as circumstances dictate) play with others in front of me or in my abscence. Nor do I need to know if that is their preference but as I have no jealousy issues..... Adultery happens for many reasons, most individual to the parties concerned. It doesnt matter who you are, with the right chain of events, you fall from a moral pillar can happen. Let he who is free from sin casteth the first stone. And as most kink possibly falls into the pit, who are we to judge other than if you dont like it, make it known. |
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SubtleHush(sub female)
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3 years ago •
Dec 17, 2020
PERITUS ARCUS you said:
"I am aethiest so there are no religious complexity issues either." Then you said: "Let he who is free from sin casteth the first stone. And as most kink possibly falls into the pit, who are we to judge other than if you dont like it, make it known." ......... HUH? Now why would you pick the fruit from our tree, if you just said the tree doesn't exist? LOL people crack me up sometimes. ........................ I think very early on in this thread it was stated that that which is agreed upon by all consenting adults is ok for most. There is no substitute for informed consent. None at all. But you should remember two key things. Not all people are honest and not all people even know the scope and breadth of what they are agreeing to. If people say, we all agree. We're happy, It's fine with me. Actually I don't care either way. My first invite by a poly couple at a dungeon established my approach to this. I took his slave aside (with his permission) and asked her point blank why this was ok with her. She was very eloquent but as she spoke I did more than listen. I read her body language. Now these many years later I didn't realize how smart I was back then. I have known so many who sell the concept of poly but make damn sure it doesn't happen, or happens only with them involved in every detail even when that is not what was agreed to. So if we are talking about consentual cheating (which honestly I don't think is a thing), that is one conversation. But if we're talking about one person cheating on another and calling it kink? Honestly folks you can ignore that little detail and you can say your moral compass isn't involved, but I doubt that is accurate. |
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