Solace wrote:
I apologize again, your domina, but I'm afraid we never see eye to eye on this matter.
To elaborate on my stance and not to criticize your own...submissive is a fluid term. Especially within the community. It is common for the general consensus to worship the opinion "finding what submission is to you". In this sense they are a submissive because they declare them selves so and have started down the path of discovery.
To say that they are not submissive because they only want it in kinky ways is enforcing your viewpoints. This is not say I do not support you in enforcing this or finding this within the submissive you seek. More to say that I don't believe it's correct to take away what others identify as based on your own desires. If this remains an issue it is common for us dominates to remedy the issue by declaring we expect submission in bed and public. Or however one wishes.
I like the ideas of submissive being a "fluid term" and "finding what submission is to you." In the past, it has been very easy for me to let a handful of BDSM talking heads, pundits or experts online dictate to me what my submission should look like. I find that I cannot live up to others' highly romanticized depictions of what a sub male should look like or how he should behave.
In my own, sometimes not so humble experience as a man interested in BDSM, particularly in FemDom, I have learned and evolved over many years of trial and error. I often have had to let go of my preconceptions about how a FemDom/sub male relationship should be. I have learned to surrender to my Wife/Queen/Goddess of 30+ years, who now tells me how *she* wants my submission to look like. I started out as a newbie once, with my long list of kinky wants and needs, pushing them on any woman who showed the slightest interest in dominating me. And, in my marriage, I persisted in this behavior until, after years of pushing to get what I thought I needed, my W/Q/G finally pushed back and told me she wanted to be in control of how our D/s relationship works.
It hasn't been easy, but I have had to allow myself to evolve from "do-me bottom" to "female-led submissive." Each day, I try to be more "receptive" than "penetrative" as a male and let my W/Q/G lead the way. And, I try to study feminist perspectives on masculinity and how it has been toxic and harmful to both women *and* men in the past.
The really delightful thing about this new perspective is that we both usually get what we need during play-time and between play-times, and we grow more intimate as each day passes. It is a new feeling to let go and let Goddess and trust that whatever happens is what is supposed to happen.