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Who has the right?

SubStanChill​(sub male)
11 hours ago • Sep 16, 2026
SubStanChill​(sub male) • Sep 16, 2026
[quote="dollMaker"]
House Talion wrote:
Knightsundere wrote:
House Talion wrote:

Everyone's sex has always been based on their genitals*. Until you separate gender and sex you're going to get blasted online and in-person for discussing this in this way.


Obviously not all dominant straight men are that daft, but even withbsound reasoning ya get blasted by the ignorant that are so easily offended that they have the need to speak up on others behalf as if the ppl in question are unable to speak for themselves. Not saying as much of you as youve prior said youre the closest to respond


No, you are the ignorant one, and everything about your question is offensive, why would anyone trans come on this thread, and engage with someone who is questioning their very right to be who they are. Are you so deluded, that you don't get, can't see that.

I am not surprised no one who is trans has taken part on this thread - why would they. Why should they spend even a moment doing so when its so obvious what you are doing, and its not just asking a question, and your words above reveal it all, even more so than before.


Thank God you’re here to speak for them. Jesus Christ dude. This is why trans people in the US are worse off than they were even under Trump 1.

As someone who worked for years in civil rights and interviewed many trans people who experienced discrimination tell me their tragic stories…. I can guarantee that they would tell you that your extreme aggression is not helping. Chill Out!!!

You’re not persuading anyone. You’re only pushing people who are in the fence further away. And at the end of the day. We need their vote to make things better for trans people. Please please! Stop thinking about how you can be righteous and think more about what is effective in achieving trans rights.
YinYangTogether​{Together}
11 hours ago • Sep 16, 2026
YinYangTogether​{Together} • Sep 16, 2026
❤️‍🔥 “let bygones be bygones” is a way of forgiving and moving on. It’s important to know that we need to do this and move forward without holding a grudge. You are grown adults! Everyone has an opinion, whether we like it or not. We can listen to people, but we should just share our thoughts and take them as they are, with a grain of salt. Fighting never solves anything. We are not in kindergarten; we are far past that stage. Let’s move on from this. Have some coffee and relax. Let your mind be at ease. Don’t have to answer to everyone, but be friendly. We are here to share, not belittle. Rise up and be better than this. That’s what growth is all about—causing more good things in this world. We love you. Please be fair to yourself/others/life. Peace, Namaste. Have a good afternoon or morning. Laugh and get a drink my friend!
Miki
10 hours ago • Sep 16, 2026
Miki • Sep 16, 2026
dollMaker wrote:
Literate Lycan wrote:
Truth is we are better when we ask questions and have a civil discussion. House Talion asked what felt like an honest question to members of our community coming from his life experiences and perspective. His question was not eloquent but I believe it was well intended. This is the perfect opportunity to educate. I don't personally know House Talion but I would not consider him to be against anyone. That is for him to say. Of course, you might be going along the party line "If you aren't 100% with me you're against me." Instead of personal attacks against him, educate him. This could be a great moment.

The Forum could be used for much better agendas than personal attacks and forum fight clubs. As a community, anyone can "speak up on someone else's behalf" but it doesn't need to come with personal attacks. There is a difference. Especially if there is the opportunity to educate and improve.

Some people only see ignorance and hate so everything they see written that isn't 100% in line with their concepts of life must be villainous. Regardless of his intent, at least within this community and this Forum, use the opportunity to make a better discussion. If you don't like his question, don't answer. If you feel he is attacking, report his post to the Cage.

As an example, a response might be "Trans identifying persons are seeking a safe, more mentally stable view of self-life and within that, some feel safer using spaces they identify with, whether they are pre-op or post-op. They are asking for the basic respect and treatment that all people ask for. They are asking that the rest of society view their appeal in a compassionate and human manner. They aren't just assuming the right." And then we can have a civilized discussion over a nice cup of coffee.

There are so many topics I am genuinely interested in but I stay quiet as I don't wish to upset or cause others to think of me wrong simply because I am ignorant. I already am aware there are a few members here who chatter like angry squirrels behind the scenes. I don't need to give them any more nuts to play with. But how can I come out of ignorance if I cannot ask those who know?

Wishing you all the best life!!
LL


I wouldn't expect someone like you to get why the OPs post was wrong, there is no room, nor should there be for anyone to question peoples right to exist, and yes that is exactly what it was. That sort of thing doesn't deserve any space, nor does your lets everyone be nice, civil BS, about peoples right to exist, that isn't up for any debate, and considering what is being done to trans people by the religious right, your people, why would you expect any trans person to talk to you?


Hmm...

Someday you can make a point / counterpoint and skip the caustic personal attacks, but I won't hold my breath. Do you even know L L outside of posts and replies in this place?

This forum is for adult debate and discussion, not cheap personal attacks on those one does not agree with.

That kind of horseshit gets threads locked before everyone who wants to can write their thoughts and opinions.

Smile! You're not alone, Doll Guy, many of the replies to O. P. House Tallion have been like yours.
However, caution is indicated. We wouldn't want other members to be afraid to share their P O V now, do we?
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As for the original question, this is my reply. It's pretty simple, really.



"Live and let live, but don't get in my grille about your choices and I won't get in yours about mine."


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Literate Lycan​(dom male)
10 hours ago • Sep 16, 2026
Literate Lycan​(dom male) • Sep 16, 2026
dollMaker wrote:
I wouldn't expect someone like you to get why the OPs post was wrong, there is no room, nor should there be for anyone to question peoples right to exist, and yes that is exactly what it was. That sort of thing doesn't deserve any space, nor does your lets everyone be nice, civil BS, about peoples right to exist, that isn't up for any debate, and considering what is being done to trans people by the religious right, your people, why would you expect any trans person to talk to you?


Let's hear from the Great Gatekeeper himself. I'm all ears. You decide who is right and who is wrong. What questions are asked and who gets to answer them.

You also attack and malign people based upon your perceptions. You don't know me. But you write "your people". Which people are they? I do celebrate religion. I wouldn't expect you to understand there are more than one type of people who say they celebrate religion, while there are many who hide behind it. I don't cotton to people who use religion to persecute others. Just like I don't cotton to those who use their choice in lifestyle to attack others.

As I've indicated, the OP asked a question. I don't know him or his intentions. Instead of attacking, maybe just let someone else answer. Or no one answers and maybe he gets the message that his question wasn't well received by his intended target.

We all have a different perspective on what the lifestyle means. We all have different views on what is reality. And we all communicate in our own unique and sometimes fucked up ways. Also, we can all learn from each other. We close our ears when we feel assaulted. Take a breath and consider how we can resolve this in a peaceful manner so it's a good conversation for all.
Miss Magdalena​(sub female)​{FreeSpirit}
8 hours ago • Sep 16, 2026

Re: Who has the right?

House Talion wrote:
Serious inquiry, jonoffense intended.
Specificly to the trans ppl. As an individual of the gender youre born with, as having the intention of becoming post-op Trans, who pre-op has the right to be treated simply based on feelings compared to the general understanding of the rest of the world?
For example- a born male is mtf Trans, dresses like a female and expects everything a female has, but is pre-op


Obviously, this is a topic that some people do feel quite passionately about and have some personal experience with that inform their opinions and feelings. There have been several thoughtful responses, so I won't add my own to what has been said or advised already. OP, given some of the replies you've received so far, has your question on why being treated based on how we we feel and identify (whether it be trans or otherwise) is meaningful and matters been sufficiently answered?

In addition to what has already been articulated, I will also say, that we as a species continue to evolve. While names and identifiers help our brains organize things in our heads and give name to things we deem important, it is my personal belief that we are not meant to fit in tidy boxes, at least not for long. With each generation we push more intellectual boundaries, seek a deeper understanding of ourselves and our desires, and with hope, are able to embrace what we discover.