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Is it consent or is it something more?

Emerie
4 months ago • Jun 27, 2024
Emerie • Jun 27, 2024
I say yes, consent is enough.

My take is consent is a starting line. The green to start driving down the road at the speed limit agreed upon. Negotiations are guideline/base on the possible path to reach the destination. Now depending on the passengers and obstacles that may come up, paths/speeds can change. On the journey isn't there constant checking (reading body language, sounds, expressions) from both sides (D type looking to s type and s type looking within) and an agreement to voice concerns if any come up(safe words)? Isn't that a continued form of checking if the other is consenting to the change/addition?

I think viewing the initial consent as a blanket statement to all possibilities in itself is where the concerns start to arise. If there are/were specifics then those should have been included in the negotiations, which then actually for me would be informed consent. That would be more of a firmly set route rather than an open path.

Given consent doesn't go far enough when the consent is assumed for consent to anything/everything that could be included.
But then wouldn't that be a concerning factor of the D type assuming rather than the s type's consent?
Kind of like saying "Yes, I'll drink soda" taken as "Yes, I'll drink ALL soda even if they have poison in them".
rubberdollyboy​(sub male)
4 months ago • Jun 28, 2024
rubberdollyboy​(sub male) • Jun 28, 2024
For me, it's an issue of trust. If I trust the Domme who's playing with me to the point where I will literally put my life in her hands, I can truly let go of all responsibility and allow sensations to take over. This is the situation I'm in with my current Mistress, with whom I've been playing for several years. We know each other well enough that we've progressed to CNC play with no Yellow permitted (there's always Red in case of emergency). I must simply endure, with no escape possible and no expectation of being asked if I'm OK (she's an RN so she can tell if I'm in actual distress). It's a HUGE turn-on for me to know absolutely that I'm in it for the duration of the scene, whatever that looks like (to her). Lately she's begun to embrace the mindfuck, such as the time she blindfolded me in my tightly cinched immobilizing bondage and then pretended she was going to give me a PA. I truly thought I was about to be pierced and there was nothing I could do about it! And after I tested my bonds (no luck of course) and whined through my tightly cinched gag (which she pointedly ignored), I found myself feeling OK about it, to the point where I was only half relieved to find it wasn't real, and half disappointed that I didn't actually get a PA that day. I can't wait until our next date, and I'll gleefully allow her to put me into severe bondage again, just to experience the mindfuck she seems to love so much.
Aquarius Dom​(dom male)
4 months ago • Jun 29, 2024
Aquarius Dom​(dom male) • Jun 29, 2024
Yes for me consent is generally enough because over time and reviewing recent scenes together this becomes informed consent !
However it may not cover all eventualities, by that I mean if you are mid scene and doing a combination of activities perhaps previously not done together before, it can produce an undesired effect maybe coming close to triggering something!
It’s very important that a brief halt is called to discuss what is happening and decide on actions going forward, if that makes sense ?
I'mME
4 months ago • Jun 29, 2024
I'mME • Jun 29, 2024
Bunnie wrote:
For me personally, it depends greatly on the person I’m playing with, and the scene we’re planning on sharing. If it’s someone I know well and trust and it’s simply a free-flowing scene that doesn’t hold any particularly new or extreme circumstances, then general negotiations are sufficient (or in the case of a dynamic, I personally give “blanket consent”). If it’s something more risky that we haven’t explored before, or a new (to me) person, then I practice what is called “opt-in consent.” This isn’t a process of saying what’s not ok (“opt-out” consent)… it’s a process of negotiating in fine detail what *is* to be a part of the scene… nothing more and nothing less. (ie *only* what’s agreed to).


Bunnie,

☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️
Bunnie,
I think many Doms can appreciate this, what do you think or any body else?