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Q for female subs - Which punishment?

B L O N D I E​(sub female)
3 days ago • Dec 18, 2024
B L O N D I E​(sub female) • Dec 18, 2024
I agree with fluffypoppet. To be dumped is not a punishment. If the infraction is that bad, then there is no punishment. It's just over.

Punishments need to be agreed upon before the dynamic even starts and I would never agree to this. If I did something bad enough for him to end the dynamic, then he no longer has the right to punish me for anything.

Since you ask, I also wouldn't accept being beaten or slapped in the face as a punishment. Time out or temporary withdrawal of contact with him would be hands down the worst punishment I would accept, and even then, I would only accept them if I agreed that I had done something bad enough to warrant that.
Miki​(masochist female)
3 days ago • Dec 18, 2024
Miki​(masochist female) • Dec 18, 2024
Never a full time sub but I can attempt a reply...

This would be a query for a sub in a toxic relationship. Neither option is any damned good.

BDSM or not, these are still relationships between two humans. their roles in life notwithstanding. A dominant who would see fit to beat and slap a woman to tears is a sadist Sub beware. Sadists by definition probably grew up torturing little animals.

If one is cheated on, a conversation must result and if there is no more trust, a breakup is the solution, not to "punish her by breaking her heart" but for the long term good of both parties.

However, if the hypothetical sub ran around behind the guy's back, chances are "cutting her loose" won't really break her heart, or not much anyway, so there's that. "Now I can go have a look behind Door Number Two!"

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So by way of disclaimer, as one who was never "full time sub material" my answer is probably of limited value except perhaps my initial sentiment:


Both choices bite the (whole) pickle.
Defender​(dom male)
3 days ago • Dec 18, 2024
Defender​(dom male) • Dec 18, 2024
I have found that the withdrawal of contact - even for one day - can be a severe punishment.

In fact more severe than I had realised.

It needed proper discussion afterwards.


For me, striking a female in anger is an absolute no-no.

That is violence, not punishment.

Violence has no place here.
Susie Q{Daddy Ant}
1 day ago • Dec 20, 2024
Susie Q{Daddy Ant} • Dec 20, 2024
Both options are ridiculous to me. This isn’t BDSM in my opinion. However, like everything between a dominant and submissive, if it’s agreed upon and you’ve receive consent, then it’s no one’s business. Punishment should serve a purpose to stop unacceptable behavior, not just a dominant lashing back out of control. If you believe either option will improve the submissive and are not just doing either because you can……Just my opinions.
Lit By Kit​(sub female)
1 day ago • Dec 20, 2024
Lit By Kit​(sub female) • Dec 20, 2024
The response to your posed question varies.

The way it is phrased, I agree with TopekaDom. Straw man argument.

And written like that? If I haven't already dumped you, please do me the favor. Clearly I need the time to go and get my head examined.

However, the varied response?

That would depend on the rules, limits, and agreed upon activities within the dynamic.

I don't agree with the term beaten. At least not as such because, again, if you are doing something that is so severe as can only be defined as that? I take the second option.

I assure you from the sound of the post, that is NOT the most terrible option.

Did the sub agree to physical discipline? Yes? Okay so next question.

Did she (or he) agree to the use of say, a belt or cane?

Or was that a limit?

Did she agree to face slapping?

Or was that a limit?

Hell, did she even agree to be brought to tears as a punishment?

Or what that a limit?

See the actual response to this is:

Are you violating their limits?
Are you in control?
Or are you responding out of anger?
Is your response measured discipline or punitive punishment?
Is it done to teach or to humiliate?
I'mME
1 day ago • Dec 20, 2024
I'mME • Dec 20, 2024
Lit By Kit wrote:
The response to your posed question varies.

The way it is phrased, I agree with TopekaDom. Straw man argument.

And written like that? If I haven't already dumped you, please do me the favor. Clearly I need the time to go and get my head examined.

However, the varied response?

That would depend on the rules, limits, and agreed upon activities within the dynamic.

I don't agree with the term beaten. At least not as such because, again, if you are doing something that is so severe as can only be defined as that? I take the second option.

I assure you from the sound of the post, that is NOT the most terrible option.

Did the sub agree to physical discipline? Yes? Okay so next question.

Did she (or he) agree to the use of say, a belt or cane?

Or was that a limit?

Did she agree to face slapping?

Or was that a limit?

Hell, did she even agree to be brought to tears as a punishment?

Or what that a limit?

See the actual response to this is:

Are you violating their limits?
Are you in control?
Or are you responding out of anger?
Is your response measured discipline or punitive punishment?
Is it done to teach or to humiliate?


@Lit by Kit

*Is it done to teach or to humiliate?[/quote]*

Many Doms live by teaching by humiliation.
Lit By Kit​(sub female)
1 day ago • Dec 20, 2024
Lit By Kit​(sub female) • Dec 20, 2024
I'mME wrote:
Lit By Kit wrote:
The response to your posed question varies.

The way it is phrased, I agree with TopekaDom. Straw man argument.

And written like that? If I haven't already dumped you, please do me the favor. Clearly I need the time to go and get my head examined.

However, the varied response?

That would depend on the rules, limits, and agreed upon activities within the dynamic.

I don't agree with the term beaten. At least not as such because, again, if you are doing something that is so severe as can only be defined as that? I take the second option.

I assure you from the sound of the post, that is NOT the most terrible option.

Did the sub agree to physical discipline? Yes? Okay so next question.

Did she (or he) agree to the use of say, a belt or cane?

Or was that a limit?

Did she agree to face slapping?

Or was that a limit?

Hell, did she even agree to be brought to tears as a punishment?

Or what that a limit?

See the actual response to this is:

Are you violating their limits?
Are you in control?
Or are you responding out of anger?
Is your response measured discipline or punitive punishment?
Is it done to teach or to humiliate?


@Lit by Kit

*Is it done to teach or to humiliate?
*

Many Doms live by teaching by humiliation.[/quote]

You're right they do. But it's a consensual humiliation when it is done. My question is very specific. Teaching by humiliation would still fall under the banner of teaching and would still fall under my entire point of is it consensual.

But non consensual humiliation for the sake of humiliation because the Dom is an angry hurt little boy....is just that. Humiliation. Done in anger. And wrong.
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Cello Trance{for You}Verified Account
1 day ago • Dec 20, 2024
Cello Trance{for You}Verified Account • Dec 20, 2024
I’m not much into punishment. I even remember as a young parent not really liking spanking my kids. I was raised that way by my dad. Old school…I did some with my first child and also my second one, but then I discovered that the best thing was to threaten to take something away from them that they enjoyed… Back then it was watching Pokémon cartoons. So I found that if I just threatened that they wouldn’t be able to watch it when they acted up it was an instant change in their behavior. It was like magic. I had found the holy Grail of parenting… Pokémon.

As a Hypno, daddy Dom, what I like to do is find out what the person wishes to change in their life if they have negative behaviors, and I work on them through positive reinforcement with that while they are in trance. Let’s say they want to eat better or exercise more, I will help them with that. If they were having trouble with relationships or jobs. I will try to help them through that.

As for things like spankings and paddlings and so on I do those in trance too. But I do those scenes only when I know that that is what the person I am trance desires. And I would not consider those punishments. Those are pleasures.

Anyway… So the short answer to all of this is Pokémon
I'mME
1 day ago • Dec 20, 2024
I'mME • Dec 20, 2024
Lit By Kit wrote:
I'mME wrote:
Lit By Kit wrote:
The response to your posed question varies.

The way it is phrased, I agree with TopekaDom. Straw man argument.

And written like that? If I haven't already dumped you, please do me the favor. Clearly I need the time to go and get my head examined.

However, the varied response?

That would depend on the rules, limits, and agreed upon activities within the dynamic.

I don't agree with the term beaten. At least not as such because, again, if you are doing something that is so severe as can only be defined as that? I take the second option.

I assure you from the sound of the post, that is NOT the most terrible option.

Did the sub agree to physical discipline? Yes? Okay so next question.

Did she (or he) agree to the use of say, a belt or cane?

Or was that a limit?

Did she agree to face slapping?

Or was that a limit?

Hell, did she even agree to be brought to tears as a punishment?

Or what that a limit?

See the actual response to this is:

Are you violating their limits?
Are you in control?
Or are you responding out of anger?
Is your response measured discipline or punitive punishment?
Is it done to teach or to humiliate?


@Lit by Kit

*Is it done to teach or to humiliate?
*

Many Doms live by teaching by humiliation.


You're right they do. But it's a consensual humiliation when it is done. My question is very specific. Teaching by humiliation would still fall under the banner of teaching and would still fall under my entire point of is it consensual.

But non consensual humiliation for the sake of humiliation because the Dom is an angry hurt little boy....is just that. Humiliation. Done in anger. And wrong.[/quote]

I agree with your last paragraph, 100% .

What I should have maybe written, is that many Doms feel that humiliation MUST BE part of a punishment.