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10 months ago. June 23, 2023 at 5:31 PM

This has come up a few times in conversations, I think, due to a stigma, but I wanted to talk about it and clarify. The subject is about relaying your intentions to a recipient, how to do it, and when is the most appropriate time. 

 

To start, the stigma comes in where vaguely claiming your intentions leads people to believe you're rushing things: I've had similar comments where asking someone if they are interested in something comes off as 'too heavy-handed' before, and I've since been working to improve my verbiage and relaying my intentions, as it is not my intent to move too quickly or overwhelm anyone when we first begin talking. 

 

The point of this entry is this: I believe that when you are interested in another person, you should establish your intent with that person sooner than later if not in the beginning. I believe this because I believe it respects everyone's time and intelligence. There is plenty of time to learn more about each other if the initial interest is there, and if it isn't, then you both know right away. It respects intelligence because there are no hidden agendas when everything is laid out in front, and there is plenty of time to vet and make sure that that is truly the case.

 

People who would disagree argue that you should wait, take your time and learn more about each other and talk about a dynamic when you are more comfortable. That makes perfect sense where the dynamic is possible, but it isn't always the case. How much time do you interact, on a faint hope they return your feelings, without knowing whether or not it was ever feasible or not? This is especially prevalent online where distance is more commonly a factor

 

And the other issue I have with waiting is that you are keeping your intention a secret from your prospective partner. It is intellectually dishonest to lead them to believe your interactions are benign in nature when you want something more serious with them. Worse still, there is always a risk of being emotionally manipulated the closer you let someone become.

 

Being upfront from the beginning can help avoid these issues, but it isn't foolproof: you will still need to take appropriate time to vet and make sure that they were not lying and that you are good and comfortable with them. Establishing your intent is not rushing: it is not an ultimatum, and it is certainly not a call to relocate this instant. It is respecting yours and that person's time and intelligence to find out from the get-go if they are open to your arrangement. That is the key word: openness, to be open to an idea that is subject to change. Circumstances happen and change people's actual ability or willingness to engage in their arrangements, but intent isn't prophecy either: just because you intend on something, even with a mutual partner, does not mean you can always make good on your intentions, and that's okay. At least you've still established that intent in the beginning, vetting several others that did not share your interests/goals in a lifestyle dynamic, and being honest about what you want with somebody should serve you well in finding someone who shares your ideas and with whom you do move forward with a lifestyle dynamic.

I'mME - When someone, and you mean the Dom not sure why the word was not used, establishes intent right off the bat, it may come off as demanding, territorial, pushy. It more often than not, would caste a tone over the chatting from there forward.
It places undue pressure on the sub.
Its like stating, "I have decided that i want you as my sub and thats it."

If able, put yourself in rheir shoes, how would that feel to you?

Are you expecting, by making that statement, them to that exclusively to you?

The very act of regularly chatting to the same person says someone is at least open correct?
10 months ago
Nitrev​(dom male) - No, I mean someone. Why would you think only the Dom/me can state intention? Why couldn't a sub make their interests known?

There is nothing wrong in asking. It is an open ended choice, to choose whether or not you want to engage further knowing what the end goals are.

I do put myself in their shoes. Women are harassed, attacked, even killed for rejecting men. It makes them untrusting of us, and it is fair. That's why I try not to come off as threatening, aggressive, or pushy. It is never my intent, and I don't want to be thought of as such. I just want to know if it makes sense for us to continue talking or if we are looking for different things. I do put myself in their shoes, and, in fact, when I did, you mocked my post addressing the harassment on here and on sites and accused me of having some savior/white knighting motive.

No. I do not expect exclusivity. I don't even expect exclusivity in the dynamic lol. I am very open: as long as my desires in entering a dynamic are satisfied, I do not worry on the how. "Under consideration" as some call it is just a talking phase to me. If it doesn't work out, that's fine, at least we knew what we wanted and can take the experience into finding the next person. If a better match or closer partner appears, that's fair too. There is no obligation in talking on either side, especially if there is no agreement to become exclusive or committed. If one does expect exclusivity/commitment, that's up to them to decide, I don't do online personally.

Talking does not even hint at intent honestly. I speak with plenty of people I have no serious intentions with, just friends. I may not know what their interests are, and it comes up very often for people when they feel one way about someone and those feelings are not returned, or even if they are, there are real life barriers that make a dynamic not possible. A dynamic with me means one of us relocating is an inevitability: it is not demanding, pushing, or territorial, it is just being honest with the implications of our dynamic so people can make the decision early on whether or not that is something that they are open to/want. Many do not want to move, not here to Florida, and not to where I want to wind up in SF. Others don't want to leave where they are. It's better to know these things sooner than later, something people won't know if they have no reason to assume the conversations are anything more than casual friendly chatting.
10 months ago
I'mME - Nitrev,
*I believe that when you are interested in another person, you should establish your intent with that person sooner than later if not in the beginning. *

This right here, establish your intent in the beginning. I'm not pulling anything out of thin air.
I imagine you would establish intent by telling them that you are interested, whatever.
It could very well make someone uncomfortable seeing as y'all had just started communicating .

When wrote about exclusivity it was an example of what someone could think. I wasn't applying it personally to you.

And the other things I stated are definitely feelings that aine could have.

As far as chatting goes, you understood what I meant, you understood what I meant, just as anybody would reading this.

10 months ago
I'mME - I forgot to address the things you say may be a potential barrier to 2 people. The things you listed are things that people usually put on their profiles. And people crush barriers every day In order for a shot to be with the one they love, jobs, new experiences.

10 months ago
I'mME - If a Dom stsrts chatting to me, and they are just chatting as a friend type, then we are not going to be chatting about thr same topics.


Maybe im weird, 🤷..

I will take and embrace that.



10 months ago
DeepEmbrace​(dom female) - Nitrev – I completely agree with you. People on both sides of the slash need to be upfront about what they want and what they are looking for. If one person is only on here looking for friends, but the other person is seeking a dynamic, then that is straight up incompatibility and it is a waste of time to be talking with the person. That's not to say someone who is looking is not also open to friends, but the conversations that I have with my friends on here are much, much different than the conversations that I have with prospective partners, etc. on here. It is straight up dishonest and annoying when people creep into the inbox like "i'm just being friendly and hi" when they know damn well they want something else from that person they are messaging. Literally just the other night, I get a Bond message from a guy claiming he just wants to say hi and be my friend (lol) and I go check my inbox and he has already sent me a message asking to fuck. REALLY. That is straight up lying. Like just say upfront what it is, you know. Or that is how I feel about it. Who wants to talk to someone for months just to find out that they are not interested at all? That makes no sense. Complete waste of time. And also this is compounded because of all the people on this site who do not know what the hell they actually want.
9 months ago
I'mME - I took his article to mean chatting through their inboxes.
After reading someone else's commentz now I fell asleep though he may have been talking about out here or the lobby or whatever it's called.

I have to write later.. supposed to have left, already Deep Embrace.
❤️
9 months ago

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