The Culture that has been here all the time

Drinfear​(dom male)​{Owns PFP} - If she never talks to men she doesn't know, why did she TELL him (a man she doesn't know) that she doesn't talk to men she doesn't know..? Shouldn't she have just told him she wasn't interested? Then she would not have had to talk to a man she didn't know.. NOW that same man might approach her again, thinking she is acquainted with him now, and might be more willing to converse..

Andron - It is a catch-22, LOL. I actually have been in this situation in school when I came across a very attractive woman, and that is what she promptly told me. And she did this on numerous occasions. I was already engaged, and I worked in the college TV studio. During a series of productions, another alluring redhead was a subject the opposite happened. She wanted to be my girlfriend because I gave her a compliment, and she followed me to the next college and kept saying break your engagement, and we can be great together. LOL, She made it tough, but I told her, "I don't know you and I have known my fiance' for a long time and trust her."

Drinfear​(dom male)​{Owns PFP} - I tell women all the time, lifestyle OR vanilla, where I stand.. They continuously tell Me I've always wanted a man like You.. Come meet Me, etc, etc.. Um.. If I turn My back on My girls, one of 6 years, one that has been here a month, but BOTH of whom I LOVE, HOW would I still be the 'kind of man you want'??? Wouldn't I JUST be the kind of man you've always GOTTEN in the past..? I asked ONE of these women once.. Have you ever been cheated on? She promptly replied yes.. I asked.. Did you LIKE it when this happened to you? She again promptly replied (expletives removed) NO. I then asked, so WHY are you asking ME to do to My wife what YOU hated having done to YOU..? I never heard from her again..
I applaud Your ability to withstand the 'peer-pressure' and stand on Your morals, My Friend..

Andron - Going back many years, a lover told me (you're the kind of man I always wanted. I always wondered what she meant. She was the best Lover I ever had but the craziest, too crazy to trust, and she even set the situation up when I was with her so her ex-husband would find us. This happened just before I met my wife. When I was getting married, she approached me andexpressed a jealous lamented, "You will have someone in bed every night." Other times when I was being enticed, I always mused if I were with her, I would never believe she was true only to me (especially if she was leaving another man husband for me).

Drinfear​(dom male)​{Owns PFP} - You are ABSOLUTELY correct.. If she is cheating with You, WHY would she not cheat ON You? When You point this out, they tend to just run away or skip the topic entirely.. My girl Natalie has had multiple chances to trade up.. Several of which I TOLD her she should take.. I'm STILL lucky enough to wake up to her smiling face every day.. NOW, I even have Flitter to wake up to as well.. I am SO blessed..

Andron - Drinfear,
I am in such a weird position. You are in a much better place, and I am glad for you. You may have noted if I write about my wife and lament the loss of intimacy because she has Alzheimer's, I got some pretty harsh feedback when I admitted seeking a sub to be my companion. That seems disingenuous on a site like this. I also have been ostracized on other "liberal" sites. Whenever I came close to getting an FWB, they didn't like the fact I had my wife here, and I was a caregiver, even if they commended me as a rare man who would do that. But this is not why I am writing this note: The Dominatrix (not my Misstress but business partner and trainer) is supposed to finally bring me the two girls that I hold contact with. These girls may be of service to me and help here, but this will be primarily sex unless I develop a personal relationship with one or both. The Dominatrix told me not to get a girlfriend (I guess she wants me to be focused on my girls. I hope this works. Not only as a Master Dom and business venture but also as a fulfilling relationship(s). What do you think about this situation? Jim

Drinfear​(dom male)​{Owns PFP} - Please, My Friend, call Me Dom.. Literally everyone does.. Even My siblings.. I, too, had a Mistress for a teacher.. She guided Me, in person or through phone calls for nearly a decade.. Her guidance led Me to be the Dom and Master I am today. I think She'd be disappointed a bit if She could see Me today.. But anyway, My apologies for digressing.. I am not completely up to speed on the entire business venture, but then, nor do I need to be. I have no dog in the fight one way or the other, but even if I DID, I would still say as long as everything is SSC, then it's none of My business anyway.. But it sounds to Me like You, My Friend, will be getting what You have been seeking to find for quite a while, and I am happy for You.. I, too, have spent Mt time being ostracized by those very liberal sites You mentioned.. ESPECIALLY once those that were 'interested' found out it was not a paid position.. 'if there's no money in it, won't nobody want that kind of relationship..' Guess My Flitter proves them all wrong.. *laugh* I am very happy for You, My Friend.

Andron - Real life reflects the ideas of humans and it seldom is exactly what we expect. One thing is for sure (probably applies to you and me) we have our own world and only a very few will understand and even fewer will meld in with us. Been like that for me all my life. I have made mine own way. When I make a mistake it is because I took the advice without knowing the motive behind it.

flitter'fly​(sub female) - If I may, Mr. Andron
You are a very respectable man.
And your wife in her Right mind knows this.
You also have extenuating circumstances.
Your wife is no longer, and has no longer been of her right mind.
This does not diminish what you have or had while so.
Nor does this diminish the love you have of her and for her.
This does though, call for a need and want of you, that you have needed craved and taken time to come to a decision on.
This my friend does NOT in any way lessen you as a man or make you (in my eyes and in allot of others eyes) make you just any ol cheat, or no good guy.
Any woman worth having will see this and you as a blessing.
Life is not black and white, nor is your situation.
It is made of many colors.
When the right woman comes along she will see this as a very compassionate trait on your part.
She will also see you as a man who is in need and want of her as she is of you.
You are NOT wrong.
Pls do not let what others say make you feel low of yourself and of who you are.
You are commendable.
I applaud you Mr. Andron

Andron - Your words are encouraging. So many people overlook the depth of my love because they look only at a man struggling to make sense of the circumstances and find a new path.

flitter'fly​(sub female) - Thank You
You just keep being you.
People are finicky, and fickle.
There opinions really don't matter.
Yours and whom you bring in is what matters. And your circumstances, as long as YOU are ready. Is what makes this a GOOD GOOD THING.
I told you once before.
She's out there, I feel this to my deapths, and she is calling for you as you are her.
Give it to God and except he will and is bringing her HOME, to YOU Mr. Andron
My prayers and good vibes sent your way my friend.

Drinfear​(dom male)​{Owns PFP} - My Friend? I was not put on this Earth to judge anyone but ME. With some, I may not understand the path they walk, and in SOME cases may not even LIKE their path, but it's not for Me to say anything.. I am not walking THEIR path, I have My Own to walk.. I accept them all, huddled under the umbrella of the Lifestyle W/we A/all share, regardless. I DO believe there is wrong and right, and if I see something wrong, I say something about it.
Like My Flitter mentioned, nobody sees extenuating circumstances they 'assume' that you're 'a dirty old man' trying to cheat and will not listen to anything else.. Imagine how they thought about ME.. 54 years old with a 27 year old wife of 6 years.. they all thought *I* was a REALLY dirty old man.. *laugh* I have not cared about what others said or thought about Me in a very long time.. The ONLY opinion that matters is the one of the Man looking back from the mirror.. If I can look HIM in the eyes, I have done nothing wrong..

Andron - You point out the most important thing. In my hippie days, we claimed many things, such as "we accept you," but not really. Case in point: I saw Bobbie Dylan many times through the years, especially after his Motorcycle accident and too much drinking. I cover many of his songs from the first albums, and he had many followers as a folkie, but when he released Like a Rolling Stone, many turned on him: he wrote about it in subsequent songs; it was the summer I ran away from home, and as I walked the streets of Greenwich Village as I passed every open door I heard it playing.

The week of the 1965 festival, Dylan's acerbic single “Like a Rolling Stone” was omnipresent on U.S. Top 40 radio. Called electric blues by some and rock and roll by others, it was unquestionably not the folk music for which he was known.

Drinfear​(dom male)​{Owns PFP} - I do understand what You mean, and throwing His name out as Bobbie tells Me volumes not being presented.. I have never been taught any musical instruments, but know I can thrash on a drum set if given a chance.. I taught Myself the organ and piano, rudimentarily.. Inclusion means EVERYONE not this person or that, in My eyes, and I do My best to reach out to those not participating, but can only offer so much help.. Some have been hurt in life far too many times to ever think of trying to 'join' any groups again.. You can only offer a hand so many times only to have it slapped away before you stop offering it.. More often then not, about the time you stop is about the time they would take it, instead of slapping it away out of spite.. Such is the way of the World sometimes..

flitter'fly​(sub female) - But damn is it not known now.
And the why on me always walking my own path.
Never settle for following the masses.