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KnottyBear​(other female) - That's fucked up. Funny but fucked up. Haha

Velvetdreams​(sub female) - What makes you say that, please?

KnottyBear​(other female) - That's fucked up. Funny but fucked up. Haha

KnottyBear​(other female) - I see you added the part about Jesus calling them friends. I did love the juxtaposition you created initially though.

Velvetdreams​(sub female) - I'm not following you. I enjoy looking for. D/s relationships in nature, in random places and analyzing the significance. So, if Jesus is a Master, yet He calls those around him, Friend, are they submissive to Him? Subs are obedient, yes? And submit of their own accord, not under duress. And not for their own pleasure or His. So why?

Bunnie - I think I understand what you're saying. I like that you "think outside the box". I too like to look at the D/s dynamic in different areas of our lives.

Bella duPuy​(sub female){Not lookin} - Here is the originating Biblical text which gives full and correct perspective on the musing in this original post:
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John 15:12–17, NIV
12This is My commandment, that you love one another as I loved you. 13Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. 14You are My friends if you do what I command you. 15No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not understand what his master is doing. But I have called you friends, because everything I have learned from My Father I have made known to you. 16You did not choose Me, but I chose you. And I appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will remain—so that whatever you ask the Father in My name, He will give you. 17This is My command to you: Love one another.

Velvetdreams​(sub female) - Read below, please. John 15: 15 is the verse I referred to initially.

Velvetdreams​(sub female) - His alone, actually, the Scripture is John 15:15
Jesus said, "I do not call you servants any longer, for the servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, because I have revealed to you everything that I have heard from My Father."

Bella duPuy​(sub female){Not lookin} - I am aware of which scripture verse you referenced, mishæ.

That verse (v15) only makes true (contextual) sense when given what Christ proclaiming what He did. I also stated such in my post above to make sure it was clear that my post was giving context and perspective to your original post.

I don't want the Word misrepresented. Going on your musing alone, it very well could have been.

I only want to lend clarity.

Bella duPuy​(sub female){Not lookin} - Verse 15 is included in the passage above.

Bella duPuy​(sub female){Not lookin} - Query:
Were you equating our Relationship with Christ, to that of a D/s relationship?

I seek clarity & understanding.

Velvetdreams​(sub female) - I think there are overlaps, shall we say. I believe my relationship with Christ can be a model of how I, personally, view submission. As I said initially, I enjoy looking for examples of D/s in Nature & creation. Certainly, there is mutual respect involved, as well as obedience as a demonstration of Love. The point is D/s, in its most basic form, is a very natural dynamic in a relationship. In any crowd. Of animals or humans, a hierarchy is somehow established. Jesus, as Master, is also a picture of a Dominant's love and devotion to His sub.
I don't necessarily mean my comment as a theological discussion.,and if I have offended anyone, I offer my deepest apologies. I just thought it was cool that Jesus disciples called him "Master," and Jesus made it more intimate, more personal calling them friends! Just a thought... No offense intended. ?

gingeredme​(sub female) - Velvet, what is the point you’re making? Is it that Jesus is not The Master? That he is only friend? What did this musing mean to you?

Velvetdreams​(sub female) - Hey BGR, lol This has become way more than I intended. I just thought it was cool, and meant no harm. Jesus is the ultimate Master, and I see Him as an example for both Dominants and submissives can learn from. Hope that clarifies...? I appreciate your comments and questions.

gingeredme​(sub female) - It does. You’re right He does have attributes of both. Submitting to Daddy has really highlighted my relationship with Him. I have a completely different understanding of submission to Him than I did before.

Velvetdreams​(sub female) - Thank you! There for a minute I thought maybe I was nutts! Lol