Catfished?

Misanthrope • Jan 11, 2019

Has anyone on here ever heard of the website, TinEye ( www.tineye.com )? It is a free site that does reverse lookups on pictures (jpg, png, gif). You drag and drop a pic onto the web page and it searches the internet for pictures that match yours. It's great for finding fakes on dating sites or if someone sends you a photo claiming it is him/her. The website will tell you how many different places it found the picture and where it was used. It's pretty good at ferreting out posers.

(after saying all that I'm going to try dropping my pic on there and see if it finds where else I've used it... drum roll, please.....)

MasterBear​(other butch) • Jan 11, 2019

@Josh


This is great!!!!
I was hoping that info to protect from catfishers would be shared !!

Fudbar​(dom male){❤️❤️❤️} • Jan 12, 2019

Unfortunately it's not bulletproof. A lot of catfish will scrape someone else's private FB and Instagram feeds for images, and they aren't always indexed.

Personally I think the term gets overapplied and should only be used when someone actively and intentionally takes on an entire false identity. I've been lied to and had folks omit critical details in their lives too, but thats just shitty and not catfishing in my book.. see also ghosting.

MasterBear​(other butch) • Jan 12, 2019

@Fud


There is nothing that is bullet proof.

But this is at least a place to start!

MissBonnie​(dom female){oz} • Jan 14, 2019

This might help a few people that do want to dig deeper into identifies. (please note Femdom site, no mixed BDSM)

http://collarncuffs.com/resources/doku.php?id=fakers

Hopefully the above information will help you and others around you stay safe"r" and secure while still having fun and finding happiness in your lives.
There is no 100% safe with online but you can be safe"r" with a little extra effort.

Dannislave​(sub trans woman){seeking Ow} • Jan 14, 2019

I was catfished a few years ago.
one day on collarspace, i got contacted by a male, who spoke to me in a manner as though he knew me, and upon conversation he told me that he knew me from craigslist. I however never used craigslist, and alarm bells struck. Upon giving me a link to this fake profile, i discovered that alot of my pictures were used, not only from my collarspace profile but from fetlife too. the fake profile however was advertising to picture share and therefore i suspected that the person who was doing this had access too all of my pictures from fetlife which was not on the profile page.

I found out that i couldnt contact administration without an account, and so had to create an account just to contact them. upon contacting administration, they didnt believe my concern and requested proof which i gladly gave. i had alternative camera angled views of certain photos that i had. the admins continued to disregard my concern and rejected to delete the fake craigslist profile.

It was only upon asking the male who originally contacted me on collarspace to also contact the admins and to verify who i was, and 48 hours later, the fake profile got removed.
I never received an apology, or an email notifying me of the deletion of said fake profile account, but i was refreshing that webpage repeatedly like a hawk.


Cat fishing is such a horrible experience where people pretend to be others for self gain, and ever since, ive been very reluctant upon updating my pictures for obvious reasons. I now no longer update any pictures on any website except fetlife, as i do need an outlet for people to see me, for my own gain of seeking an owner, but the above story was 1 of a couple of experiences ive had, so i understand how distressing it is.


My advice to people is to watermark their images, using photoshop before posting them. not only that but label within the photo multiple accounts you have across the internet, so that, people who do get victimised by catfishes, have someway of contacting me, to my distress, so that im aware of it but also to try to get the said profile deleted, even though admins of sites nowadays are very bad and reluctant in my view.
My other suggestion, is not to share photo's with people privately, especially those who dont share photo's back or have no profile pictures of their own. Only share photo's with those you feel you have gained a connection with over a period of time, but even then becareful.
my last piece of advice is to simply reject having contact with profile accounts that do not have photo's of them selves, whether its a pictureless profile or a profile that shows random pictures that dont correlate to the actual person, such as a face pic etc. firstly you do not know who that person is, and secondly, empty profiles usually mean bad news anyway since it signals a lack of effort on their part, and if like me you're dating, the last thing you want is a 1 way conversation, with someone where they have all your information on your profile and pictures, but you have nothing by lookign at an empty profile with no pictures. Dating goes both ways in my view, and often bdsm ego, on the dominants behalf gets in the way of getting to know someone on a dating front. my personal view is to discourage sexting, roleplay and online related play if you're dating, simply because fantasy does not translate into real life. More important things like getting to know somebodies life and lifestyle, and what their status is in life to what their seeking for is far more important than fantasy online play.

sorry for the long post.
I hope this helps in someway.
xxxx

MissBonnie​(dom female){oz} • Jan 16, 2019

A little help for those in Dannislave​(sub trans mtf){seeking Ow} situation when its images being hot linked or used with out permission. First check the site rules before you post anything. I can tell you first hand only about one percent of us read what we sign. I know its boring to read them but they are a site disclaimer on what you can and cant do. They are there to legally inform you for your rights.
Often on entering a site, you sign a digital agreement (this legally binding. Sites often spend thousands of dollars getting these written by teams of copyright and internet lawyers)Think about that for a little while! how many times did you agree to enter a site a today? What have you signed away with out even realizing ...think all sites are the same?

This digital agreement that you agree to, every time you enter, often allows them (the domain/site owner)permission to use your images 'else where' or advertising or promotion. With some sites these images you allow to be used are further sold on as profile stock. So, in short your image and texts are sold to "populate" a new or waning business. Dating sites are renowned for doing this. Last I looked, 1,000 profiles was 2 dollars AU . When it comes to getting materials moved, this isn't as easy (as Dani just noted) because if the materials are what they call 'passon' the secondary site, often isnt in the wrong so 'legally' doesnt need to remove the materials (although they should) In the case of Craigslist they where the biggest buyers of profile stockers additionally problematic for so many other reasons for to now struggling websites that do operate above the law, but now how to operate within a whole new structure of laws ..thanks! not LOL At least Craigs list is now closed due to these laws and lot of images are safe'r'

There is a procedure that will make it all simpler and legal. You need to issue what is called "DMCA" (digital media take down" notice')
a DMCA violation is any violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Its most typically refers to an online copyright violation by a third party, which the law provides procedures and actions to remedy.

the DMCA is part of the United States copyright law, therefore is applicable only to the websites hosted in the US. All sites hosted in the US are bound to obey the law. Therefore even if the copyright owner is outside of the US, they can still issue DMCA notice if the hosting website is located in US.

rather than explain how (think Ive rambled enough) I'll add a outside ink with simple advise. On the link there is also a tool. This tool will immediately show you who hosts the site. You can then look up that site’s exact requirements for takedown requests and how to submit them.

When a website owner gets one of these! lets just say they act LOL

https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/how-to-submit-dmca-takedown-notice/

MissBonnie​(dom female){oz} • Jan 16, 2019

bugger I hit the post ad didn't re read...I wanted to add this site doesn't stock/load profiles. I find this site to have VERY good principals and ethics.
You will notice on the bottom of every page they (cage) do advise you of your rights and do have, how to deal with DMC should you have an issue.

https://thecage.co/eng/dmca.php

Hydra1234​(dom male) • Jan 16, 2019

Catfishing, unfortunately, is rather prevalent with the increase in technology mainly down to the anonymity that technology provides for in some peoples minds (I guess) if it's online they can do whatever they want without accepting there are consequences to their actions. Having been catfished in the past and it is one of the main sources of my anxiety towards people I make all the effort to make sure who I am talking to is really them, for instance I tend to ask a ton of questions because I am genuinely interested in and if something doesn't add up I typically am able to take it with a pinch of salt.

However, at the other end of it, I am also highly aware that someone could perceive me to be a catfish at any given moment so what I like to do is do things such as calls, live pictures etc to reassure the person on the other end of the conversation that what I am getting is them but at the same time what they are getting is me that way both parties are at equal terms.

dollMaker​(dom male) • Jan 16, 2019

Unless its right through the middle of the image that is worthless as watermarks elsewhere can be removed. Must say I dislike water marking the image through the middle as it ruins the picture, but it is wise to do so.



Agreed and even then be careful as you never know if after a dynamic has ended if that person won't share private information or photos. Its a huge risk transmitting anything to another person as you loose control of the image, info once you hit send/submit. Sharing among friends for a laugh is possible as is the images ending up on porn sites.




Not everyone can be out and proud, and nothing is secure on the web so not having a face photo in the open is something I would actually urge people to do. Many just do not seem to understand that once its out there, its out there for good and having easily identified details and photos of yourself on the net can effect your future employment possibilities. Many companies do digital searches regarding possible employees and also require employees to follow a 'moral code' so putting you face out there in my view is crazy. I get where you are coming from and I agree regarding blank profiles and those who neither take part in forums or chat rooms as more than likely being 'bad news', but it is also possible that those people are just taking protecting their privacy as far as they can. Obviously doing that will reduce their chances, but I do understand and I am sympathetic to wanting to protect identity and maintain privacy.

There are ways of verifying identity quickly, re stated gender get them to record an audio on here of material you write. Get them to post it after you send it, within minutes, and if they refuse, then cease contact. After that a quick Skype call can verify other information. I for one would have no issue doing either of those things. A few minutes of Skype though for me would prove a lot. However doing as you do is down to you, different strokes for different folks.



Actually, to those that know me, there will be no surprise that I disagree with that. I think you can tell a great deal about a person regarding online play etc as anyone experienced, who has walked the walk will incorporate that into online play. Its a good way of seeing how someone might behave during a physical world encounter in the safety of a virtual room. I for one can tell a great deal about who I am cybering with and I have found it to be very telling. So I would not dismiss that out of hand, but of course the person either on the top or bottom would need to be experienced and knowledgable themseleves other wise cybering will be of minimal value except showing how good a writer, creater, communicator the contact is, which does have some value but not so much re physical world ability and knowing how to do things safely.

Again what works for you, does not always for others, and cyber play, scenes have there value, and can be very enjoyable on multiple levels. Also there is no reason why what you are looking for can't be enhanced by a little online fun, the two are not mutually exclusive in my view. Again your life your approach, but its not a universal truth, just your way of doing things.