First off all when I say Punishments I mean PUNISHMENTS not funishments. with that in mind it is costumed that there are no safe words during punishment I mean after all it wouldn't be punishment if you could just get out of it. but what if something actually goes wrong. what if the person receiving the punishment is having a heart attack? that is obviously very extreme and exasperated but you get the idea.
Safe words are always in play. If you couldn't use a safe word that punishment now runs the line of abuse.
Also I'm not a fan of inflicting pain as a punishment. Whats the difference between swats on the ass when you are good versus swats on the ass when you are bad.
No one should hit another person when they are angry or out of anger.
I find banishment or time out method very effective. If they can see you but can't communicate with you then the punishment really hits home. Then when they are unbanished you two can sit and talk and hug and all will be better.
I wouldn't play with someone who disallowed safewords, even during a punishment. Punishment isn't for me anyway, but even if it was, hell no. Trauma is harmful. Do you really want to cause your partner serious harm, emotionally or physically?
I have CPTSD, if a safeword is ignored, it can lead to major, MAJOR problems.
I dunno, to each their own, but I firmly believe safewords should always be in play- there are a lot of ways in which things can go wrong, and cause permanent harm.
I have safeword always in play but have never ever used it during a punishment . Really didn't think to . I trusted and invested that he would know when it was enough and would stop. He always has full control of the situation and himself. Never in anger and believe me there is a clear difference in play vs punish.
During harder scenes i also have a caution word in play to signal something is wrong and he needs to pause so we can make the adjustment.
Trust is key both in and out of play. Just my 2 cents