rosethorn wrote:
To me there is a difference between an open poly or mono relationship and dating, dating comes first personally I wouldn't go up on a first date and go btw im seeing 5 other people... but then maybe that's the issue ? im saying it seems to have become a norm in vanilla or bdsm just the dating world in general, everything is at the push of a button now. Being in bdsm or vanilla can be different in many ways but personally I have noticed this theme for me anyway seems to happen in both worlds. Thigs seem to have changed fairly quickly in the last two/three years, I wasn't sure if it was just me but it seems many have some interesting thoughts on this topic.
thank you all for your input x
I'm glad you got some use out of it. I think the discussion covered a number of topics under the same umbrella of 'relationships'. There are different goals and different levels for sure, and the answers change depending on where you are there.
As Byrdie pointed out, casual dating isn't new, and today's hookup culture may take it further sexually, but the behavior is still the same. I think that problems and confusion arise because both those looking for casual dates and those looking for more serious relationships use the same sites and apps to meet others. Regardless of someone's motivation there, that's the sort of thing that should be disclosed either in a dating profile or in initial chat, in my opinion.
As for saying 'BTW, I'm seeing 5 other people...' and the timing there, I suppose it begs the question of what your relationship is with those five other people. If those five are just folks you casually date, and the goal is simply dating as a social activity with the odd hookup here or there, then no... I don't think there's a need to disclose anything. You wouldn't necessarily feel the obligation to disclose all your friendships or past sexual relationships either. At that point it's personal information that you can disclose when and if you feel the need.
If you're going to be physically intimate with someone, then yes, there should be clear, frank discussion and disclosure. Health concerns are just that, and if you can't talk openly and honestly about STD's and other partners, then that's a concern. This doesn't mean revealing any personal information about other partners beyond health concerns, exposure risk and testing frequency.
If the goal is a long term relationship, I'm of the opinion that poly and mono shouldn't mix there. The discussion so far shows how strong and deeply held the differences in approach and feelings are there, and I think it's best to openly disclose your preference there on a dating profile or in initial chat to avoid problems.
I could write a lot more about the specifics of disclosure and sharing from a poly perspective, but thankfully Evergrey wrote a very in depth blog on the subject and did a much better job than I could do. If anyone reading this hasn't read it yet, the link is below. She's writing about her personal preferences, but the rules she's developed apply across the board in my opinion.
Ev's blog:
https://thecage.co/blog/userblog.php?blog_id=12897