TopekaDom wrote:
I fully know what boundaries and limits mean. More than likely, I have been doing this longer than you have (maybe longer than you have been born, but since you have no age on your profile, I can't make that assumption).
Different relationships have different structures and some Dom/mes have much more stringent guidelines than are often found today. Particularly amoung us Old Schoolers. I have, in the past, worked with male property, as well as female property. Everyone knew going in they would engage with same gender sexually. 3 or 4 times before any kind of scene started.
I've been sucked off by men and ass fucked same, but in my mind it does not really make me Bi. I didn't do it because I found them sexually attractive, but to Dominate. To me a hole is a hole.
The reason for this thread is to see if any Lesbians had such an experience and what they thought of it. Which laura was so kind to offer. (tbh: I never thought of a lesbian not knowing how to give a blowjob, which makes me a sexist, or genderist maybe.)
My profile actually does say I'm in my 40s. It also says I've been in the BDSM world for 13 years, so I assure you, my understanding of consent, especially when it comes to forced bi, is not lacking.
Just because the subs knew ahead of time that same sex contact was on the agenda does not necessarily mean they consented to it in their own best interest. That's not to say they didn't, either. I'm sure some did. I have seen a lot of subs consent to things they don't actually enjoy or that would be harmful to them just to please or impress a dominant though, and I find far too many dominants do not take this risk into account when assessing whether or not a scene is safe to play out.
If you have been turned on by sexual contact with men, and/or by instructing them to engage sexually with other men, then you are attracted to men, and would be some shade of bisexual. Straight men do not enjoy this kind of play in any way, shape, or form. I understand you are older and may have a different understanding for this because of the eras you grew up in and how unacceptable homosexuality and bisexuality were. I've witnessed and heard of many older folks who have had similar aversions to being labeled as anything other than straight. Straight people don't willingly engage sexually with other people of the same gender though. By definition, that is not possible. Doesn't matter if it's about power and control and/or attraction to their physical form. Being turned on by someone of the same sex for any reason at all is not a heterosexual experience, and that's okay. It doesn't have to be. Perhaps labels don't mean much to you, I don't know, but they do exist for plenty of valid reasons.
Laura is *one*, singular lesbian, sharing an opinion that would be considered contentious by most other lesbians. I am effectively half lesbian, and have dated and slept with several lesbians, so my point of view here is no less valid than someone who is 100% lesbian -- which, I would say based on her words, Laura may not be, since again, homosexuals do not willingly engage sexually with the opposite sex any more than heterosexuals do with the same sex. The two options here are that Laura is bisexual, or Laura agreed to the act as a trauma response. Lesbians don't want to suck cock, regardless of who's giving the order. And yes, being unaware that a gold star gay lesbian who has never been with a man would not know how to suck cock is indeed problematic. I don't know if it would fall solely under the label of sexist, but at the very least, it demonstrates the thoughts of a man who has little to no experience engaging with real lesbians or how their relationships do and do not function. One singular woman in an internet forum is not representative of an entire community, so please don't assume she or anyone else will be.
Write whatever you like, but if you share it publicly, be prepared for it to be ignored and/or directly criticized by people in the marginalized community you do admit you not understand.