DeviousMaster(dom male)
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4 years ago •
Jul 26, 2020
Re: Red flags DopplerEcho wrote: DeviousMaster wrote: I am a Master who will always demand money for either online or live sessions with My slaves/slaves, no metter what, and who will accept this and wants this, fine, who dosesn't, still fine, specially when everything is upfront and no manipulation going on or anyone being forced in any way, and even more specially when the slave says that "Master, I will do anything for You, I want to obey, I want to be owned", and I warn them that EVERYTHING is a very powerful word.(they say they know that, I demand money or putting the word money into disscution and tell them who I am,and all of the sudden I become fake for them...) I know money are the most important thing at the moment for everyone, everything is about money in this reality and I will never destroy the life of anyone, even if someone's fetish is to go all in, to be ruined( and they are a lot out there), I simply can't , but there is no tragedy to say who you are and what you want, I might either get rejected or accepted...a tragedy is when some slaves will say that they will do anything, and they will(I have heard with My ears what's on their mind and seen with My eyes), kids, animals, blood and some other disgusting things, APART FROM MONEY. Wait. Wut? Enhance. "I am a Master who will always demand money for either online or live sessions with My slaves/slaves, no metter what, " Yeah. That's what I thought you said. You spelled sex worker wrong. Can you please enhance?* No, I have spelled matter wrong. A sex worker Master who never fucked his slaves nor he will? better? 
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ArtfulDodger(sub female){collared}
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4 years ago •
Jul 27, 2020
There are so many red flags about that post, it sounds like a military parade in Beijing. That man is not a Dom, he's a sick predatory pervert. You don't just "bring children into the lifestyle." What he is proposing is child abuse and incest - people go to jail for that for a reason. I worry that the fake marriage proposal , the threat of beatings, and his desire to commit incest didn't set off HUGE alarm bells in your head. I don't know if you are familiar with the term "sub-frenzy" - it's when a (typically new) sub is so anxious to find a Dom - ANY Dom - that they settle for the first man that pays any attention to them. Don't do that, Em! You deserve better than this fuckhead. If you want to know what a Dom should be like, I suggest you read "Polarity", by Virginia Ford. Set your standards high and wait for the right Dom. Good luck.
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Emma the graceful(sub female)
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4 years ago •
Jul 27, 2020
@NewbieEm
I encountered the same story on fetlife. Approached by this guy. He seemed nice but his comment about there will never be a divorce sent shivers down my spine. His comment about quote, our sons fucking me as mother of his childern was too much. There are real creeps out there. The stories I heard from other subs break my heart.
You cannot invest enough time in getting to know someone on a vanilla level before getting involved. Thanks NewbieEm forsharing. |
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TheChimera(sub female)
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4 years ago •
Jul 27, 2020
Re: Red flags DopplerEcho wrote: DeviousMaster wrote: I am a Master who will always demand money for either online or live sessions with My slaves/slaves, no metter what, and who will accept this and wants this, fine, who dosesn't, still fine, specially when everything is upfront and no manipulation going on or anyone being forced in any way, and even more specially when the slave says that "Master, I will do anything for You, I want to obey, I want to be owned", and I warn them that EVERYTHING is a very powerful word.(they say they know that, I demand money or putting the word money into disscution and tell them who I am,and all of the sudden I become fake for them...) I know money are the most important thing at the moment for everyone, everything is about money in this reality and I will never destroy the life of anyone, even if someone's fetish is to go all in, to be ruined( and they are a lot out there), I simply can't , but there is no tragedy to say who you are and what you want, I might either get rejected or accepted...a tragedy is when some slaves will say that they will do anything, and they will(I have heard with My ears what's on their mind and seen with My eyes), kids, animals, blood and some other disgusting things, APART FROM MONEY. Wait. Wut? Enhance. "I am a Master who will always demand money for either online or live sessions with My slaves/slaves, no metter what, " Yeah. That's what I thought you said. You spelled sex worker wrong. Echo, my hero. I was thinking the same thing. |
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TheChimera(sub female)
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4 years ago •
Jul 27, 2020
Re: Red flags NewbieEm wrote: Hi there,
I still class myself as a Newbie but also wanted to warn the next Newbies, so that they don’t go through what I went through. We’d chatted for a couple of days and then decided to move to what’s app, this is where my first red flag should have been flagged but it didn’t. Not entirely a red flag, I know personally I'm much more comfortable on Discord, so I sometimes will ask if someone's comfortable with it, to talk there. We then spent a couple of days chatting and said that we would get married, First big red flag. After only a few days already with a marriage proposal? Someone doesn't understand the gravity of marriage then... I would be his VP of his company Another big red flag. Most entrepreneurs of big-time companies won't just hand off a position like that willy-nilly. Not to discredit you Em, but positions like that take a LOT of vetting, time, effort, and interviewing. Not just a few days of casual chatting. and he then decided when I hadn’t messaged him back to say that if I was with him that he would have beaten me till I was unconscious and that then raised the flag but I hadn’t had anything bad off him Beaten you until unconscious? So clearly, someone has no regards for SAFETY - or Consent. Since you cannot consent if you're unconscious for one, but two. Clearly he doesn't give a shit about safe words or your personal safety. I'm glad this finally did raise a red flag. till he says that he wanted to have kids with me and that they would be in the lifestyle and that he would ask our sons to have sex with me whenever he (the Dom) wanted. And that my daughters would suffer the same fate. And yet no red flags came up here. I know Incest is a kink, but I mean... I don't condone it. For me personally, this would be a major red flag. This should have been discussed as basic "What are you into? What are you not into?" sort of convo. Not just randomly bringing it in with some banter about a delusional fantasy. Aside from that, if I have sons or daughters - what about THEIR consent when they come of age? What about you Em? Do you want kids? Ifso, would you want them with this person as a Dom? Probably not at this point, but it's still questions you'd need to ask yourself. He then said that because I was his, that I had to give him some money to pay for his car. This is when the flags went up. And final nail in the coffin on this one. I'm surprised this is ONLY Where red flags came up for you. All of the above prior would have had me on edge and going "Nope, see ya!" Aside from that - I thought this schmuck had a company of his own, and was going to make you VP? Where's his money there? LOL! Thankfully I asked a couple of people on chat and someone who was willing to train me up initially about what I should do. I blocked him both on what’s app and on here This has shaken me quite a bit, I’m not sure I will totally trust someone again like I did especially not as quickly as I did. Just PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make sure your senses are heightened initially especially if your new. I didn’t give him much info, pictures or house address like he’d asked, so lucky in that sense but I’m still scared that he could contact me again probably demanding things. Hey Em, If it helps, there's a TON of red flags I caught with everything you described there... In the quote above, in bold I put in my thoughts if it helps. :X Try to find SOME positive out of it - even if it is a pile of shit in the end. I'd take this ordeal as a learning experience. You dodged a bullet. |
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NaughtyEm(sub female){Under cons}
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4 years ago •
Jul 27, 2020
Re: @NewbieEm Emma the graceful wrote: I encountered the same story on fetlife. Approached by this guy. He seemed nice but his comment about there will never be a divorce sent shivers down my spine. His comment about quote, our sons fucking me as mother of his childern was too much. There are real creeps out there. The stories I heard from other subs break my heart.
You cannot invest enough time in getting to know someone on a vanilla level before getting involved. Thanks NewbieEm forsharing. You are more than welcome |
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NaughtyEm(sub female){Under cons}
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4 years ago •
Jul 27, 2020
Re: Red flags TheChimera wrote: NewbieEm wrote: Hi there,
I still class myself as a Newbie but also wanted to warn the next Newbies, so that they don’t go through what I went through. We’d chatted for a couple of days and then decided to move to what’s app, this is where my first red flag should have been flagged but it didn’t. Not entirely a red flag, I know personally I'm much more comfortable on Discord, so I sometimes will ask if someone's comfortable with it, to talk there. We then spent a couple of days chatting and said that we would get married, First big red flag. After only a few days already with a marriage proposal? Someone doesn't understand the gravity of marriage then... I would be his VP of his company Another big red flag. Most entrepreneurs of big-time companies won't just hand off a position like that willy-nilly. Not to discredit you Em, but positions like that take a LOT of vetting, time, effort, and interviewing. Not just a few days of casual chatting. and he then decided when I hadn’t messaged him back to say that if I was with him that he would have beaten me till I was unconscious and that then raised the flag but I hadn’t had anything bad off him Beaten you until unconscious? So clearly, someone has no regards for SAFETY - or Consent. Since you cannot consent if you're unconscious for one, but two. Clearly he doesn't give a shit about safe words or your personal safety. I'm glad this finally did raise a red flag. till he says that he wanted to have kids with me and that they would be in the lifestyle and that he would ask our sons to have sex with me whenever he (the Dom) wanted. And that my daughters would suffer the same fate. And yet no red flags came up here. I know Incest is a kink, but I mean... I don't condone it. For me personally, this would be a major red flag. This should have been discussed as basic "What are you into? What are you not into?" sort of convo. Not just randomly bringing it in with some banter about a delusional fantasy. Aside from that, if I have sons or daughters - what about THEIR consent when they come of age? What about you Em? Do you want kids? Ifso, would you want them with this person as a Dom? Probably not at this point, but it's still questions you'd need to ask yourself. He then said that because I was his, that I had to give him some money to pay for his car. This is when the flags went up. And final nail in the coffin on this one. I'm surprised this is ONLY Where red flags came up for you. All of the above prior would have had me on edge and going "Nope, see ya!" Aside from that - I thought this schmuck had a company of his own, and was going to make you VP? Where's his money there? LOL! Thankfully I asked a couple of people on chat and someone who was willing to train me up initially about what I should do. I blocked him both on what’s app and on here This has shaken me quite a bit, I’m not sure I will totally trust someone again like I did especially not as quickly as I did. Just PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make sure your senses are heightened initially especially if your new. I didn’t give him much info, pictures or house address like he’d asked, so lucky in that sense but I’m still scared that he could contact me again probably demanding things. Hey Em, If it helps, there's a TON of red flags I caught with everything you described there... In the quote above, in bold I put in my thoughts if it helps. :X Try to find SOME positive out of it - even if it is a pile of shit in the end. I'd take this ordeal as a learning experience. You dodged a bullet. Thanks, yes definitely dodged a bullet and glad that I stopped it but yes it should have been stopped earlier. I’ve put it down as a learning curve and now definitely not scared about him now. Definitely more cautious and definitely not going to jump into things so fast |
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Notely
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4 years ago •
Jul 27, 2020
Stay on the site message to message someone has to get to know you before anything.
Ignore anyone that just wants to direct you to phone or email some off site messenger right away they just trying to get your information just say no and block. They should say more then just hi and hey should write you essays if they really want to get to know you. They read your profile before contacting not be waste of time. That they upfront and on the same page what looking for. Just because they are attracted to you does mean you are in to them has to be the same you have to know more not just because they say so. The whole demisexaul thing gotta have a feeling not just attraction. That is one for one not about one person submissive has a mind and does mean they are weak they are strong have right to speak up. Only a fool will say you have no rights or you are sex toy. They should getting to know you getting in your mind. Red flags they say submit right away , You are mine , They say they want to own you right way , Or want to use you , Do not respect you , Tell you take off your clothes and send them a picture they think that verification you don't need to fall for that crap. They say they are a Dom or Master right away in message just ignore them. Someone should be acting normal not saying they are a Dom or Master right away. They saying right away they in to you saying they love you this is a big scam to lure you in. Have a friend contact info and extra money if you need to get out there. Never have anyone drop you off at someone strangers house always meet in public never go home with anyone they ether need get a hotel take the time get to know you til the trust is more their. If you can't go right away go to a local shelter save money this why good to be prepared. We live and learn have to have boundaries. I traveled to a guy I got to know that completely lied who he was and was smoker I was allergic to smoke. His phone was burning up with messages from women. All he had to say when I got of the plane was to have sex in the air port I told him no and screamed he said Ok I will pay for ticket to go home. This why you have to be careful you meet online many people lie about who they are. I learned not to fall for it if someone wants to get to know then they need to come to me first. Old tag line I came a crossed your profile how many in posters have copy this wrote the same thing don't fall for it. All they talk about your body this the right person for you. Keep things to the imagination still be sexy keep clothes on show a little some people do not understand what respect is so if you show to much or guts they think you are a toy know one should be treated this way. Try to save the nudity for the right one. Don't go by sweet words go by sweet effect. They need to get emotionally invested before getting hooked. When the times comes they need to exchange photos and voice and cam in mature manner before meeting in real they are saying who they are not someone pretending. They speak the same not like a scammer. They have bad grammar will use am a lot lower case i that their sentence do not add up. If its to good to be true then its not real. If the pictures look old model looking nothing they taken of them self its not them. If they say they got a broken camera but they can call you just walk away they just scamming you. If the photo do not look right you look up on yandex to see where the real ones came from how old they are see if this person being truthful. If you want to learn how to read someone know what your getting in to reading the book Psychic Intelligence using your four clairs knowing when to walk away. They need to earn your respect to get in your garden and your submission not just given and not to be used. When they earn the respect take it slow have patience then yes. Don't fall for the ones say can you relocate right away this is big no no you get in to the wrong hands never relocate just to anyone cause ones you are their how will you know how they respect you they just sweet talk you. This way you take it slow don't rush don't fall for these fools want you move right away. Takes meeting a few times they just meet you first they need to show them self. If you grow a bond online they should not make you do silly demand this the time they still getting to know you as its not went real. It can take 6 weeks to 3 months to truly go further if its long distance try a virtual game stay here still if its long distance go on dates til you feel time to meet in real. If you are the sub then they should come meet you first in real in public not your house they still need to earn more respect. The bedroom not the first thing or your house. You need to feel safe why they should come to you first they should force you to meet first. They should be fully committed and mature not collecting others only in to you. If they really in to you then they go the distance for you if they can then good bye. They need to meet you a few times in real stay a few weeks or days it can take a year til its fully more a relationship moving in can take a year you want to know how this person is how they going to treat you. Good to have back up plan have someone go with you on the first meeting or have them sit at a different table. Or ask them to exchange Ids you want upfront not lies. You will have to put your foot down cause you have right to what you want. |
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DomJayy(dom male)
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4 years ago •
Aug 14, 2020
Thought I would touch on scamming or fake profiles ! The biggest red flag in my opinion is not willing To video chat! I’m not saying in the first set of messages but when it reaches the point of sending more explicit messages or even willingness to play you have to be sure it’s the right person
When it comes to proving yourself as the photo you send or description you give it’s by far the best way to verify! Unfortunately in the world we live there are some genius photoshoppers but you can’t edit a video chat! Lots of people here have listed some great red flags so I won’t delve into the same ones but caution is everything online. |
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tallslenderguy(other male)
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4 years ago •
Aug 14, 2020
Ditto so many of the responses here.
To me, a marriage proposal after a "couple of days" of online chatting is not a red flag, it's a brick wall... or at least a stop sign. And i get it. i know how fast and deep it can go. Many of us are here looking for intimate relationship, connection, and if we find it it is easy to wanna go all in. Emotions can be like that. But even if feelings go that way, and fast, i don't think anyone should commit to marriage without 'dating' first. i think we simply cannot know a person well enough in a few days or weeks of online exchange, to make a commitment to marriage. Unfortunately users and abusers often know the power of emotion and need too. They specialize in using others and are often skilled and practiced at triggering strong emotional responses of desire, need, hope. i think anyone who truly cares about you and relationship is going to be willing to treat it with more deference than a drive through 'happy meal' from McDonalds. |
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