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A Purposeful Journey

2 years ago. November 1, 2022 at 5:13 PM

I saw a really good discussion on a status this morning on another site about the term "alpha" as it pertains to submissives.  I jumped in and learned some stuff, and started forming an opinion of my own on the topic.  Fun :)

I've always been uncomfortable with the term even when it comes to dominants, but even more so with submissives. It seems like a throwaway word, a weak descriptive word, while the word "Dominant" also implies an action, to dominate.  A submissive, submits.  

An alpha sub? I saw several different definitions of alpha sub, it was helpful for me to read through them and think about why exactly I'm not fond of the word.

The old definition of alpha sub described the first sub in a poly household, the one responsible for training the other subs and handing out duties. With the rise of a much more informal version of D/s & M/s, this has mostly fallen by the wayside and many aren't aware of it at all. I'm new to this world, though I am older, so this was new to me. 

Others described it as something that some subs, perhaps more insecure than others, would use to describe themselves to make them stand out from all the other subs, to seem better?  I don't think anyone is better or worse than someone else.  We're all different, special to ourselves but we're still just people.  But I can see the term being used that way.

Others described the alpha sub as someone who is dominant in their work world, for whom submission is a temporary escape from the pressures of the job. Something was said about how these women don't have a weakness that means they need a Dom to help or strengthen them, to paraphrase one commenter, they are all strength and power and just WANT to hand that over.  Hmmm, doesn't seem very sub-like to me, but ok if some like that definition, or parts of it. 

I am in the corporate world myself, and I am a leader. I'm not at the top of the totem pole by any means, but I have influence, and I lead a team. I have gotten comfortable in this man's world, and I enjoy my job. I've gotten to this place by emulating other women who check their passive aggressive bullshit at the door, say what needs to be said, and put in the work. 

However, I would not call myself an alpha sub - I'm sure many women like me feel the same way. To me the work world is the temporary place where I go to make money, though I do enjoy it and I'm good at it. Now that I've found my way here, submission is not my escape. Submission is my home, and slavery is my joy.

My two cents for today :)

SirsBabyDoll​(sub female)​{🍕+☕}Verified Account - To me, an Alpha sub is a Submissive who sets a strong example of their form of submission. They are leaders and teachers, yes, but specialized in their form of kink identity. The have high moral and ethical character, a wealth of knowledge that they share freely, and are not afraid to learn from others. They aren't afraid to ask questions and they are willing to step outside their realm of comfort to learn about themselves. They strive to constantly improve and grow, both as a person AND in their kink identity.
2 years ago
SirsBabyDoll​(sub female)​{🍕+☕}Verified Account - Oh, and they also don't take on the label of "Alpha Sub", because they refuse to place themselves above others.
2 years ago
ozark hiker girl​(sub female)​{Owned by E} - Ahhh, I like this definition. It's kind of like the alpha subs in my first definition but modernized and with a broader view. Thanks for chipping in :)
2 years ago
Ingénue​{VK} - Yet more self-serving labels, anyone? Met a few self-designated alpha subs on here who are no different from the rest of us. Climbing the slippery ladder of their own imagination because I doubt anyone else actually cares. Bless.
2 years ago
ozark hiker girl​(sub female)​{Owned by E} - Yeah I've seen some of those too. Hope they can outgrow whatever is making them feel that way or they might not have much luck.
2 years ago
Ingénue​{VK} - Quite. Fingers crossed eh.
2 years ago
ozark hiker girl​(sub female)​{Owned by E} - Though I definitely would not tell someone they can't or shouldn't be an alpha sub. I think we're all different and do what makes us happy.
2 years ago
Ingénue​{VK} - Oh that would be giving them far too much attention. I'd rather find an ordinary sub. Much more fun.
2 years ago
HisJuguete​(sub female) - Although I have been called an Alpha sub by a few people here, I don't consider myself Alpha. However based on conversations I've had with those who have called me such, it is because I fit the "Dominant in their work world as well as in other aspects of my vanilla life". I see submission as an escape from my vanilla dominant personality. For me it is a contradiction in itself fueled by the way I was raised. A strong mother who taught me to be bold, independent and strong yet also a father who believed woman should be submissive therefore required that from his wife and daughters. I was taught to serve the men in my life and my mother made it known that when I got older and if I chose to marry, it would be required in other aspects. I did get married, however he does not see me as his sub. To him we we are equals which is why I believe I crave submission while also being dominant in other aspects.
I know it may sound confusing, because I feel it every day but I hope my perspective helps.
2 years ago
ozark hiker girl​(sub female)​{Owned by E} - Thank you, this does help! I really appreciate your perspective on that since I think you're more rare being dominant in non-work aspects of your vanilla life as well as in your work life. I have been dominant outside of work in the past but I'm not comfortable with it.
2 years ago
erzascarlet​(sub female) - I have been called an alpha sub by a few people but I do not consider myself one. I believe they call me this because I have a strong personality so the Dom has to have a stronger one. If they do I submit 100%. When I’m with my Master I’m his to do with as he sees fit. ?? I have zero brat in me. Like you I see my job as the temporary position and my submission is who I truly am.
2 years ago
ozark hiker girl​(sub female)​{Owned by E} - Lol I have 0 brat in me as well. Thank you for sharing, yes a strong personality takes a strong Dom - you have to be able to respect him, but your submission is complete.
2 years ago
ozark hiker girl​(sub female)​{Owned by E} - And when I say I have 0 brat, I'm just saying that brat is not included in my submission, but a brat could submit 100% as well, and they are usually strong personalities, so I can see the alpha sub definition for them as well. Sorry brats - I didn't mean anything by it :)
2 years ago
ozark hiker girl​(sub female)​{Owned by E} - Hmmm, there might be a writing there. Brats submit just as much as a slave would. Because they do, it just may take more time to win their trust. But once won, they are awesome! Love different points of view.
2 years ago
ButterfliesAndCuffs​(sub female)​{LJ}Verified Account - I always took it to mean the third definition. Powerful in the work environment but submissive with her Dom. I’m an independent woman and a good mother, but I have no desire to be in charge of or responsible for anyone else in my career so that term has never fit me.
2 years ago
ozark hiker girl​(sub female)​{Owned by E} - I can completely understand that. I came to the career leadership role when my manager left - she had set me up to take over the team, and I had to pull up my big girl pants and just do it. I learned a lot and it took a couple of years to get comfy and good at it. Before then I hadn't thought about it, was happy being an individual contributor and someone else running the show. Thank you for your perspective, I really appreciate it!
2 years ago
Curiousmind​(sub female) - “…Now that I've found my way here, submission is not my escape. Submission is my home, and slavery is my joy…”
Those words have spoken to me and resonated with me. I feel the same
2 years ago
ozark hiker girl​(sub female)​{Owned by E} - It truly is! I had a bad insomnia night last night and told E that I read for a bit to quiet the brain buzz, then turned out the light, focused on my service to him in my mind, and was able to go back to sleep. Thank you for your comment!
2 years ago
Little moon​(sub female)​{Not lookin}Verified Account - I've been told by many that I'm dominant/alpha because I have a very strong personality. I do not like to lead but if I feel there is a need I step up and do what needs to be done, regardless of the situation. This is because most of my life the dominant /males have either dropped the ball or simply walked away, and it was needed to get results or simply survive. I will submit fully to someone that I feel deserves and earns that side of me, but like a wolf I will defend and take down anyone /thing that threatens me and my "pack", because that's what is needed to thrive and grow. So while I am a submissive I will not submit to anyone just because they are dominant. And I do not feel it lessens my submissiveness just because I have a strong personality, or may need to lead/guide/sort things in my life at times. This is purely my personal perspective and view point I hope it helps a little.
2 years ago
ozark hiker girl​(sub female)​{Owned by E} - Thank you for your perspective! It's great to see so many subs that identify as strong personalities, even if we don't like to lead unless we have to. I can understand about doing what needs to be done, I had to do that in my recently ended marriage when my ex would just drop the ball completely. And yes, we defend those we love even if we're not dominant, love your comparison to the wolf.
2 years ago
Canadian​(dom male) - “Submission is my home, and slavery is my joy” - Beautifully said!
2 years ago

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