Tersely Pertinent

SavannahLyn​(sub female)​{~Umbee~} - i'm still sorry that chat became an unfun place to visit. i miss you there. ^.^ *hugs*

SirsBabyDoll​(sub female)​{Pizza+☕} - I'm a very vocal Brat (or was) here on the Cage and I agree with you, to a point. You AB-SO-LUTE-LY have the right to dislike brats for yourself. You AB-SO-LUTE-LY have the right to not interact with brats when they are in Brat mode. Everyone does.

The problem occurs when misleading misinformation is spread about them because of personal preferences. When the tone of an opinion is conveyed as fact and that tone is one of hate, that's where the problem is. When the person behind the behavior is forgotten and a brat is treated with disrespect BECAUSE she is a brat and not because she was a bitch, then it's a problem.

Are there people who claim the Brat title who do so to get out of accountability? AB-SO-LUTE-LY. Do I, as a brat, approve? Absolutely NOT. There is a big difference between a Brat and a bitch......

But brats get blamed anyways.

MissBonnie​(dom female)​{oz} - Do you want to lend my dragon skin fire proof underwear? Things always get heated when opinions differ. I say "I don't do brats" and people take that to mean I don't like them as "people" Personal preference isn't the person behind the kink. I can say this to you because you'll remember it ""YKINMK" or any other round the same time like YKINMKBYKIO, with the same meaning. It shouldn't matter if we like different things. Not all brats are created equal as SirsBabyDoll so eloquently pointed out (neither are Dom/mes for that matter). I'd take ten of her kind of brat any day..."accountability" goes a long way. So brats aren't your thing, why should that bother anyone else so much. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

NarahPrimal​(sub female) - Hmm ok interesting post.
I will say you are not the first Dominant that I have come across that dosnt like brats and it seems to be with the older generation, more of the OG taught ways. I personally have Sass that I will admit and possibly a SAM but then a mix of other things. To me brats are playful they like to push a little to test the waters and I love them for that.. I think alot of brats get a bad reputation because of others, the ones that say they are brats but are nothing but rude and disrespectful.. To me a submissive either it be a brat, slave, service sub ect will never truly disrespect their Dominant.

SirsBabyDoll​(sub female)​{Pizza+☕} - Narah, speaking as a Brat, it has been my experience that the meaning/reasons why a Brat will Brat on someone changes over time. At first, the Brat may "test the waters" or test the boundaries of a Dom just as wild mustangs test the fence line. Why is because they need to assure themselves that the boundaries are not only there, but are consistent. As time goes on, and Brats are reassured that the limits and boundries hold, they Brat in order to connect playfully with their Dom. Eventually, it's just becomes banter and humor. Complete and under disrespect??? AB-SO-LUTE-LY not. They same the disrespect for those who deserve it. But then again, everyone else would treat insta-doms the same way. It's all about the tone, the relationship, and the level of trust.

NarahPrimal​(sub female) - I can understand that completely and trust me I can Sass with the best of them 🤣 never disrespectful but Sass yes. When it comes to my own Dominant I'm really really bad at it lol. And yes insta Doms normally run and hide from me 🤣🤣
My Sass can be in alot of ways walls also.

TopekaDom​(dom male) - The problem is people use the "Brat" tag as an excuse to exhibit controlling behavior. They are all "Oh we are so feisty and loving and we deserve love for our behavior".

Which really is nothing more than "We want you to pay attention to us and will do whatever we want to get a rise out of you." This isn't submission, this is bottoming when they feel like it. Which is fine, but you aren't being honest about it.

"But I want to be loved and cared for!!!"

submissives and slaves are loved and cared for in their proper shaping. Are there abuses in the system? Yes there is, but not everyone.

I am a very flexable guy, but even I have my limits.

NarahPrimal​(sub female) - I do agree with you on those that say they are brats and are simply topping from the bottom or just being disrespectful that is not submissive behaviour.

Bunnie - The tricky part about encountering brats is that their “kink” often doesn’t come with a pre-discussed agreement. Someone bratting in the chatroom hasn’t actually discussed whether it’s consensual with all parties involved to be a part of their role play. Can you imagine what would happen if someone walked into a room and just started swinging a flogger? Lol. Sounds extreme, but it’s much the same thing. However, easily overlooked because there are no “tools” involved with a brat (or little or pet player). It’s a fine line to allow someone the freedom to be themselves around you, whilst still maintaining boundaries that doesn’t allow them to draw you into their play without agreement to taking part. I personally think that’s what makes them unpalatable for many… the feeling of having your boundaries steamrolled. And that’s a pretty valid bad taste to anyone in this way of life.