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The Culture that has been here all the time

When I studied to acquire my Master's status I discovered the M/S relationship existed probably for all the history of humans. Religion and Western Culture distort this greatly. Using codes and euphemisms even denial masks it presents the fact many people thrive within this often unrecognized subculture. For example, my wife had all the earmarks of a pleasure slave and was generally devoted and submissive to me. In times of marriage friction, I often heard the words from a counselor, "She just wants you to love her" "Love her" I thought I was and did now I know without a doubt I need to be a master, not some preconceived idea we are to live as equals.
2 months ago. March 8, 2024 at 9:35 PM

Hello Friends,

I mentioned before that my wife was a sub, but I did not understand the concept until recently. According to one book I keep handy, she was a classic sub. She has fleeting moments of her old self on rare occasions, and I relish those few moments. This post is about how she and several other women addressed me.

The most common was for decades, "Daddy," but I have had women call me Boss or "You're in charge." Strange to me, as I recollect, this happened during closeness and allusions of intimacy, which were not necessarily at the level my wife expressed. I took them as simply addressing me with respect. 

I see now that each woman made this choice regarding how our relationship was or was to be defined or hoped to be defined. In cases when I interacted with women on a friendly level but the relationship was kept a little more distant, these terms were not used. During several incidents, I saw what may have been overtures at me, which I missed when a woman addressed me in a tone similar to my wife's and with a demeanor—resembling a flirt. I did not seek nor act on that because our marriage was monogamous, and neither one of us strayed; therefore, I did not pursue or encourage this. 

I am thinking out loud here because though I am new to BDSM M/S, I now think these events and situations can be seen in a new light and could have become overt if I had encouraged them.

Does, by definition, a "submissive" person wait for a "dominant" person to make a first move? Or can either a Dom or Sub initiate interest in someone.? Is there a protocol for this?

Sweet Ginger​(sub female){} - *we* are are all different..although many of *us* may share some common interests/experiences, that's a good thing..imagine how the world would be if we were all the same??

As for making contact again, everyone approaches it differently..some make initial contact and some don't fir various reasons.

I personally prefer when getting to know someone who peeks my interests to learn about the man first before title(s).

Same for titles within established D/s and M/s it's all a matter of personal choice..i would prefer not to be called say, "babygirl" if he called all his prior exes that..(some may not mind), that's just me..

I think deciding to call a dominant Sir, Master, Daddy or Daddy Master Sir. ;) it's all a matter of personal choices, that should be discussed between the two.

Hope others chime in with their perspectives to gain more clarity. Best of luck as always on your journey.
2 months ago
I'mME - Submissives come in all flavors. There is no way to look at someone and know that they are submissive. The same could be said for dominants. Two people, on a BDSM platform, one self-identifies as a sub and the other says they are a dominant.
That's all that has been established. Relationships between D's and sub's should start out no different than other relationships. Talking, getting to know one another, bc while people may share kinks, there is a shit ton of stuff that should be established before any kinks start happening.
I'm not coming from a POV of one-nighter (for lack of a better term), but with a relationship being the goal.
With that said, I'm not ANYONE'S submissive until I enter into an arrangement with a Dom. Chatting with strangers is just that, chatting..
If a Dom makes attempts at asserting control (these attempts can look various ways) it makes me wonder at what kind of person they are. It comes off as arrogant, and it says that they consider all subs to be the same. Because how can one have Dominance over someone that they don't even know.
Never mind consent and all that goes along with that.

I would treat someone as a human being before treating them as a sub when they are not your sub is the best advice I could give.

As far as who approaches whom first, it's a social platform and answers for this are probably going to vary for different reasons.



2 months ago
SnowMinx​(sub female){Owned} - They are not a submissive because you think they are. Noone is a submissive without their consent.
2 months ago
Andron Dom - I didn't even think that you did put words in my mouth. You like doing that, don't you? You make too many assumptions my dear.
2 months ago
SnowMinx​(sub female){Owned} - Comment deleted by poster.
2 months ago
SnowMinx​(sub female){Owned} - "During several incidents, I saw what may have been overtures at me, which I missed when a woman addressed me in a tone similar to my wife's and with a demeanor—resembling a flirt."

I want you to know there is no tone or demeanor to suggest that someone is submissive.

Also do not call me dear, it is patronizing. Thank you.
2 months ago
Andron Dom - I have no problem with women and it wasn't easy to remain monogamous for 39 years with women always trying to seduce me and that is a fact. When I had my rock band I was foolish and allowed it and played into it but with my wife I have been completely loyal to her and I am as of this very moment? Still true though this period of time has just about driven me crazy and confused.
2 months ago
Andron Dom - OK Deary
2 months ago
SnowMinx​(sub female){Owned} - Women always trying to seduce you? It wasnt easy to be monogamous? Oh my goodness maybe we should praise you for not falling prey to these dangerous submissive women.
2 months ago
Andron Dom - Wow, you have a sense of humor, or are you jealous because I remained faithful to one woman for 39 years, although I was a male sex pot? It takes both the man and the woman to make longevity happen. My wife was approached several times by men, and like me, she remained true. Like Jimmie Carter, I did sin because I had lust in my heart sometimes. What would be the value in remaining Manogomous for 39 years if it wasn't challenged and it was easy?
2 months ago

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