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3 years ago. December 24, 2020 at 4:08 AM

There is no way I'm the first person to wonder.
I'm probably only the latest in a long line of people who have asked.

Earlier today I read a blog that was already a few months old but it was very interesting so I left a comment. Some well known and well respected friends did as well
I do not have the permission of the OP to put a link to it here but I will say that it was essentially about the classic dilemma: If I can't have both, would I be willing, or even able, to give up BDSM if an amazing vanilla person came along?
This is not that discussion.

But it did get me thinking. BDSM or vanilla. Kink or vanilla, Fetish or...

That last part stuck in my head, so I asked the sink (I was washing dishes at the time. Gettin' all domestic!) "sink, can vanilla be a fetish?"

Let's set aside for a moment the metaphysical dichotomy in the question "If the pleasure is in being denied, can it truly be considered denial?" and instead turn our attentions to this little head-scratcher:
Deprivation, restriction, and denial of all sorts of stuff is considered by some to be kinky - so then couldn't being disallowed from expressing your kinks be a fetish unto itself? Withholding BDSM? A sort of lifestyle chastity?

Surely wiser people than me have considered and even answered that question countless times before.
In fact I believe it was Shakespeare's Domme who said "What's in a name? That which we call a fetish by any other name would smell as sweet."

The sink never committed itself to one side of the argument or the other. I had made it through the wash, rinse, and dry phases of doing the dishes with little more than "Yeah. I suppose so. Sure." So I did what I always do with burning hot kinky weirdo fetish questions - I brought it here.

Thoughts?

katerina​(sub female) - From my understanding (and beliefs), vanilla is a sort of baseline understanding of human sexuality. It is how you can sort of start your basic understanding of sex. It is also what is the most accepted by society. It’s “the norm”. Anything past that is where kinks come in. I do believe that the word “kink” encompasses what you prefer. So that can overlap into vanilla things.... but that’s the BEAUTY of things! Words are fluid. I find it a bit hard to keep up with all the new acronyms that are appearing. Whenever I chat with someone new, I like to have them define the terms that they use to describe them because they mean different things to different people. (This is why i refrain from labeling myself as a brat. Some may interpret the word brat as a sub using a label as an excuse for blatant disobedience due to their interactions with people who use such a label.) ANYWAYS ..Words don’t need to have such rigid definitions.

(Back to your point.. sorry for getting off topic) If vanilla as a kink and the suppression of your so called “true nature” gets you off, then hey! go you!
3 years ago
LongerJohnny​(dom male){B&C}Verified member - Thank you very much. One could stray very far off the path with so many term and acronyms. And even more confusing are the different ways we each interpret them.
3 years ago
Literate Lycan​(dom male) - Consider this if you will . . . A truly dark fucker, living the 24/7 Sadomasochistic life, may feel a Friday night of Vanilla to be quite . . . kinky???

Or quite possibly, vanilla is the first, lightest shade in the spectrum of gray . . . Oooo . . . Sorry, bad analogy!!! Or joke. But truly, I think Vanilla is just a construct that those who prescribe being in the lifestyle place on those they don’t believe are in the lifestyle. I believe almost everyone is somewhere on the scale of kinky fuckery. It’s just for some, what they consider kinky is what most of the rest of this community would consider not even a blip on the scale.
3 years ago
Jack in the box -
If you take a walk back through history - to some, this would be considered vanilla 😏
3 years ago
Jack in the box -
Not the point of the blog - sorry.

I think denial could be considered a form of kink - until the realization that it will never be granted - then its just reality - not much kink in reality 😕
3 years ago
Morley​(sub female){Max Sterne} - For me words are air, none mean anything more than the action behind them. So is Vanilla a Kink? For me, it depends on what is done. I personally believe it (vanilla) can be used as Chasity for sure. I also believe it could could be used as kink. I mean who doesn't like to just curl up, watch a movie or fire, with no anal hook in place, or butt plug or vibe in? But then again, those things sound so damn fine ... Okay back on track... I'm with the dishes... Yeah, I suppose so, Sure!" 😝
3 years ago

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