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emeX​(sub male){collared}
2 days ago • 09/16/2020 6:04 am

Feminization is not humiliation, it's elevation

emeX​(sub male){collared} • 09/16/2020 6:04 am
Feminization is often classified as a subgenre of 'humiliation play'. In practice, you take a man, make him out to be a women (dress him up, makeup, etc). The result of this is humiliation for the man. But why?

What's really going on in this man's mind? Could it be Women = humiliating? Femininity = weakness and embarrassment? Let's not leave out Misogyny.

What if the roles were reversed? What if you took a Women and dressed Her like a man. Is this a form of humiliation too? Does this Women now feel humiliated because now she looks like a man? Or does She feel now stronger and more powerful?

i don't think i have to tell you what i think about all this. Read the title.

And the Women who put this into practice (on men) should consider doing a double take. Just a suggestion.

Thank You.
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IceGirl​(dom female)
2 days ago • 09/16/2020 6:22 am
IceGirl​(dom female) • 09/16/2020 6:22 am
I never thought it is humiliation I think thats a very narrow view. I am glad you see that however i dont feel like if i dress any which way i am more or less humiliated.

I think the most important aspect is expressing yourself who you are i feel in being genuine you find a power and that we should be with people who help bring that out of us.
emeX​(sub male){collared}
2 days ago • 09/16/2020 6:40 am
emeX​(sub male){collared} • 09/16/2020 6:40 am
i do want to add...Some men (possibly women and non binary people as well) practice this fetish as a means to explore the 'other/opposite' side, to feel 'sexy', or experience 'femininity' in general...there is no harm in that. But what i see in the vast majority, and if you do a bit of research on the subject, it is clear that feminization is used as a form of male humiliation.
tallslenderguy​(sub male)
2 days ago • 09/16/2020 6:24 pm

Re: Feminization is not humiliation, it's elevation

tallslenderguy​(sub male) • 09/16/2020 6:24 pm
emeX wrote:
Feminization is not humiliation, it's elevation


i don't think feminization is either (i.e. "humiliation" or "elevation"). i don't think gender makes one inferior or superior.

i wrestled with this for a long time and think i finally figured it out a few months ago. i am not what most would call "fem" or have overt "fem" attributes. i'm not a stereotypical 'fem' gay guy. Though i did have some 'fem' qualities as a child, they got conditioned out of me (or buried for survival). i have to tell people i am gay if i want them to know, or if i casually mention it, most people are surprised.

For me, it can be a huge turn on when a Dom or Top guy wants to feminize me, and i get both embarrassed and thrilled (a paradox i don't think is uncommon in this?). Though cognitively i don't consider it humilating or inferior, our feelings are in a different part of the brain than reason or cognition is, and i think that's where and why people experience the seemingly contradictory feelings of "humiliation" or "degradation" and erotic thrill, desire and turn on at the same time. This bothered me and added a layer of shame because i knew that feminine isn't humiliating or degrading, yet i still felt that way.

What i came to realize i was experiencing is a conditioned emotional response of "humiliation" or "degradation," the same one that was programmed into me as a kid as i grew up and resulted in my going into hiding. The erotic thrill and turn on for me is the power of a Dom seeing me, seeing past the hiding, exposing me and, really, affirming me. His desire for those feminine things in me is affirmation and thrilling. We are both connecting, despite our cultural conditioning. The emotions of "humiliation" or "degradation" i may feel are feelings i developed in prison, so to speak, almost a sort of PTSD, yet i now love them because i am simultaneously getting a deeper recognition and affirmation at the same time. It's like a side effect that one may get from a drug, but the overall effect is so good, that the summary assessment is "wow, what a great drug." I.e., i'm not actually doing this for the humiliation or degradation feelings i have no control over, i even love those feelings now because something real and buried is getting seen, desired, nurtured.
Knightsundere​(sub male)
2 days ago • 09/16/2020 6:54 pm
Knightsundere​(sub male) • 09/16/2020 6:54 pm
Of course it's not humiliation but the whole foundation of a lot of fetishes is in doing something "naughty" or alternative. Exhibitionism isn't a fetish if it's not taboo to have sex in public - feminization isn't a fetish unless it's seen as daring to be feminine.