House Talion wrote:
In my experience receiving, I'm most certainly ly Dominant.
In my experience giving, such can only be used to punish if the sub doeant enjoy it
This makes me wonder:
Is corrective punishment not allowed in a dynamic? Does punishment need to be a negative? There is a phycological term, called "punishment" the defining factor is that, in order to correct an action, you take something away. Oppositely, it is called "reinforcement" when you are disciplining by giving something.
The strange thing is that a spanking, when considered correction (or what we call punishment) is actually called reinforcement, because it is being given, but the result is the same, to correct an action. So spanking could not even be considered a "Punishment" in any sense (again, since punishment would be the taking of something... like someones crayons.) Yet both are disciplines, and both are meant to promote the right behavior. Both reinforcement and punishment can be positive or negative.
Not to mention all the evidence that says that positive correction is the same and better than negative correction.
Not saying Spanking is punishment if the sub enjoys it... But positive reinforcement is a thing. So a Spanking can still be part of a disciplinary routine, all opinion of course.
It is called Operant Conditioning. Quite confusing, but fun:
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/waymaker-psychology/chapter/operant-conditioning/#:~:text=Reinforcement%20means%20you%20are%20increasing,also%20be%20positive%20or%20negative.&text=All%20punishers%20(positive%20or%20negative,likelihood%20of%20a%20behavioral%20response.
In behaviorist (operant) tradition, positive and negative refer to the adding or removing of something, respectively. Reinforcement is doing something after a behavior to increase the likelihood of that behavior increasing. Punishment is doing something to decrease the likelihood of that behavior. So for positive reinforcement you give something the organism finds good (orgasms for completing a task). For negative reinforcement you remove something the organism doesn't like (taking medication to make a headache go away increases the likelihood of taking medicine again). Positive punishment adds something the organism doesn't like (standing in the corner being ignored) and negative punishment removes something liked (withdraw attention).
In vanilla world spanking is frequently used as an example of positive punishment. Not the most effective way to change behavior! And not even a punishment for many of us here.