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3 months ago. September 20, 2024 at 2:00 PM

Do to the conversation in this thread I decided to text her about it and ask why we can't hang out as much anymore.

 

Her reply is - "I'm around. Silent cheerleader in the background!!"

 

That wasn't an answer clearly and when pressed further she refused to address it.

 

Note we used to have lunch together like once a week and go to the gym together for almost two years she was my best female friend now she won't even have the decency to explain why she won't see me in real life anymore.

 

This is how I know it's her insecure cop consiverative roided up husband. She has hinted back before he put his foot down many times how he doesn't like queer stuff and that if I met him it's best not to mention it.

 

Now you might wonder ok so a friend cut you off over your husband why does that bother you so much people lose friends all the time for all sorts of reasons.

 

She actually helped me at one of my lowest moments. Being intersex my body hasn't always had the best medical care for a time a new primary took me off progesterone which lead my bones to become weak and start to break easily.

 

When a bone metabolic specialist got involved she ended up being furious change my levels to right the ship. The issue is when everything was in a healthy level I started to have periods again for the first time in almost 5 years.

 

I have some serious gender dysphoria at times because I am not the most comfortable being in a female body so this was difficult for me not only to accept and process but adapt to.

 

The worst event was I once went to the gym with a friend and while I was working out it started outta no where and I was wearing my white martial arts uniform.

 

To say I almost died of embarrassment is to put it mildly when I got home I was crying in a near fetal position when jen got off work she came over and tried to comfort me and shared how it's a universal thing all women have an embarrassing moment don't feel so bad about it.

 

I genuinely don't know how I would have coped at that moment if she wasn't there helping me not just feel like total crap.

 

You think this doesn't have layers read other blogs if mine. I have XY chromosomes but in short my Y chromosomes didn't work properly so my body formed off the instructions off the X thus I have a cis women's body.

 

You know how rare this is estimated about 1 in 270,000 you know how many times I just wished I was male or had to deal with idiots say shit like XX is female and XY is male that's science totally ignoring the fact there are over 40 intersex conditions that don't care about what typically happens.

 

So when I had a friend that literally is one of the few people I could totally open up to and be vulnerable with just up and leave because her husband doesn't like the fact I'm attracted to women has been brutal.

amalthea​(sub female){Mr Gregory}Verified Account - I am so sorry you have had to deal with all of this and you are grieving the changing relationship with your friend. I have to thank you because I never understood intersex and what it meant. I knew chromosomes weren't as simple as X and Y, but you explained this well. My mom is transgender. FtM. He always felt male. Trapped in a female body. It was rough and the only reason I exist is because my mom thought having a baby would make him feel more like a woman. It didn't. Then my poor mother was cursed with the GIRLIEST of daughters AND granddaughters. Sorry...not about me. There are no words to heal the grief or this wound. Be honest with her and move towards a place of acceptance. This maybe all she can offer now. It is OK for you to be angry. Take your time and grieve. Buy a voodoo doll and make it look like him. Just keep holding onto the positive. Remember you are worth it.
3 months ago
IceGirl​(switch female)Verified Account - I put a link in terms of intersex conditions there's many variants mine is called XY sex reversal. Or another way to say it is my body doesn't process testosterone properly thus without the T my body never got the hormonal message to become male.

My family did try to raise me male for a time but by puberty it was obvious I was gonna be female.

I feel what you're talking about and what your mom went through the biggest issue for me is since my hormones have been properly tuned for the last couple of years it has impacted me.

I think the way to say it is a female pre puberty and post puberty the same? I am way different personality wise shoot before I had no interest in sex for example now even though in the BDSM world I tend to top sexually I love it when my girl dominants me.

My body loves it so much yet psychologically I have issues with myself there are days I want to burn the medicine it's like this isn't who I am i don't know what is happening to me.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Intersex_variations
3 months ago
jackdawsVerified Account - I am so fucking pissed off with people's intolerances towards people. Whether it is Race, Religion, Politic, Gender or Sexuality. I am sorry that this was the outcome of the conversation. Definitely a complex and difficult situation that would be so much simpler if people could just Get Over Themselves. I never understood the smearing of a group based on either one individual, or a perceived threat. If only we could all just judge people on their behaviours and actions, not on what colour shirt they choose to wear.

I hope that the situation changes and evolves back into something more fitting to your friendship with her. But, if it doesn't, then just try to hold onto the memory of the friendship you had.

There are a myriad of complex issues at play here, and a solution that is best for all involved may take years. You just have to decide whether that friendship is worth the effort. If it is, stick with it, work at it. If not, at least you tried.
3 months ago
IceGirl​(switch female)Verified Account - I am not planning to cut her off and maybe one day her husband dies or she leaves him and we can get closer again.

I think the oddest conversation but was helpful for me was when my girlfriend convinced me to participate in a couples sex night and I was open to it but just didn't want the cis het boyfriend of our mutual friend to fuck me anyway one thing led to another and my girlfriend his girlfriend were tied of sex I was still quite energetic so we started playing and I was like fine I will experiment if you don't mind.

What surprised me was how warm dick is and how it kinda twitches and sorta struggles inside at times kinda ofd but the warmth felt great.

Anyway so when I told my friend about this she was like see now you know why us hetero women like guys.

I am like a warm squishy dick isn't all that I much perfer a sex machine or my girlfriends squid dildo oh my god the suction cups crazy 🤣

She was like yeah but it still feels plastic and dead.

I was like yeah I guess and she said when he can't get it up she will put heres under a hot water bottle for awhile to try to mimick the warmth.

It was like yeah I don't think the warmth matters that much to me I more or less don't hate it though. I think the reason why i had no idea it could feel good at all is because of me having been through sexual abuse.

So yeah my friend meant alot to me and that isn't gonna change also i would never do anything she didn't consent or want.

Now if she wanted to tie me up and take me from behind while pulling my hair thats on her not me.
3 months ago
jackdawsVerified Account - I mean... if that's what she wanted, what kind of consenting friend would say no right? lol
3 months ago
Larsapan​(dom female) - I relate. I lost my best friend who got me through the suicide of my mother to Qanon via her husband. She didn't even tell me she moved states away until a week after she did and when I didn't follow down the rabbit hole she ditched me (mind you we built a friendship outside of politics but I'm left of left and she was MAGA).

I deeply miss her, she was my ONLY support system after my mother and I haven't been able to make a new friend since. However, I wouldn't change it. It taught me something about myself, my beliefs and standing in my integrity; if you can't stand there with me, we probably shouldn't be friends. Friendly maybe, friends no thank you.
3 months ago
IceGirl​(switch female)Verified Account - I am quite sorry you went though that. I had suicide attempts when I was young my family made me think my body was cursed or something and that I was supposed to be male. My mom took me to Doctor's to try to make them remove my breasts and I was freaking out I didn't want to even though at the time i didn't fully see myself as female either.

So my mom and I split ways I blamed my whole life being ruined on this rare intersex condition and felt no one. Would ever loge or appreciate me.

It has taken many years to come to peace with it which is why I can even talk about it at all.

I also know if I could choose a rest the last few years I would have chosen to be female anyway.

I just can't imagine being male anymore I might not care for following gender norms and at times dress quite tomboyish I do not mistake myself for or wish to be male anymore.

In that respect I kinda grew into my condition one could say if it never happened I would be a regular male and like most it would be natural.

But I didn't I have a female body and I wasted way too much time hating on it for no good reason.

I don't know if you would like to be my friend but I am open to it.

I mostly just come on here once in awhile to share poetry or blog about my life.

The reason is it's venting whic nit gonna lie it helps and I plan to write my life story one day and it's good for me to document my life and get my ideas down someplace.

Not to mention getting comfortable with the idea of people knowing my inner person was a barrier 🚧 at one point.

I have gotten way more comfortable sure now and again i get harassed or someone i know in another way finds out and brings it to my face and I kinda brush it off.

The worst was when a male coworker asked if he could fuck me since he knows I'm into all that kinky shit.

It was like woah 😨 um no thanks I perfer women if you didn't notice.
3 months ago
Kelpi - Those 7 little words said so much. I have had to cheer friends in silence and from the back. Never easy and always it hurts not being able to yell and cheer out loud. Take joy in knowing you are still her friend and she wants' to have your back and is not against you. You want her to just yell and cheer for you but what will happen to her life if she does? Will she have a marriage after she does? Will she still have a family? Do you want her to lose what she has just to speak out for you? Our world is not perfect and will not be for many centuries. We are improving a little at a time but we have a long way to go. Take heart in the fact you still have your friend and your still in her heart.

Think about the fact you are who you are and you have people who have your back no matter what. I once had a friend who would drag me out shopping and girl watching. There are just some people I never want to see in lingerie. We had the same taste in women and I loved how she would boldly go up and say hi to any who caught her eye. Oh well things happen and life goes on. Brave heart move on and find someone who will take you into her arms and make you wonder if it could ever get any better and it will. Till then stay strong and stay true to who you are.
3 months ago
IceGirl​(switch female)Verified Account - It's bullshit, that her marriage is that frail that her husband is that much of a fraud. First off he was a grommer massive age gap she was young and she moved in with him because she just was sick if living with her family.

But he shouldn't control her or her friends Jen should be allowed to live without him being her soul universe that is insane.

If her husband is so weak that he feels threatened by one lesbian friend in her life how does he actively treat her you think any better.

If anything this has made me more clear he's a total shit bag who doesn't deserve her and she's in this abusive controlling relationship that will be better when it's over.

Maybe she already saw some of that she had a dog and when it died she was devastated he told her he didn't like dogs so he would never let her get another dog.

She has a dog again I have yet to be able to see the dog or hang out with it I think note this was only one way maybe the deal since she needed anything and he was like fine have a dog but don't hang out with lesbians anymore.

This is so bizzare I can barely understand how in the world this is happening other then shes co dependent on a bullshit man and it's breaking my heart and I am sure it hurts her as well.

You think this is right this is something I should just be like oh well.

Who knows maybe someday Jen will have the hard conversation with me about what a lap dog shes been to this insecure boy in a mans body but I will never condone any of this.
3 months ago
Kelpi - I have seen this before in both men and women. I have yet to figure out why they let it happen but the best I could come up with is they have no place else to go and starting over scares the hell out of them.

I wonder what is going on behind closed doors we do not know about. This could be a M/s and she is just does not understand what kind of relationship she is in. Or it could just be she is so in love with him that she can't see his faults and there are many of them. I do not know how many times I wanted to say something then reminded myself I do not know everything about what is going on.

There have been times I have said something just to find out I was right and they just up and left without anyone knowing where they went.

I just hope you and Jen have that conversation long before there is no turning back for her. There is a point where people just think "I have been here for so long why stop now" or " who would take my now at my age?". What they fail to see is the strength inside themselves and the friends they have.

There is a light in you that shines like the sun. I know if she ever was to find here way it would be because of you. If you ever have that talk remind her she has a good heart anyone would love to take care of. Hearts are like trees given the right care they will grow faster and stronger than you ever thought could happen.
2 months ago
amalthea​(sub female){Mr Gregory}Verified Account - Gender and sexuality are separate. I think often they can get mixed. You sound beautiful as an intersex human being. Maybe don't choose. Each decide what you feel. One day you may feel more female, than rock on and if that day you wanna play with a guy have a hetero night! At the core, you love and are sexually drawn to women. That is ok. I'm a hetero woman but I went to a bdsm club and I saw this woman, naked and she was a larger woman, and I thought she was the most beautiful thing. I wanted to touch her and worship her because she was so soft. I'm not into vagina but I could do other things. I'm not sexually aroused by women, but I'm curious. Maybe one day I'll want to order out for tacos 🌮 lol. All I am saying is enjoy the buffet. I'm discovering things I never thought I would enjoy. I'm sorry for the trauma you experienced. But all these things have made you an advocate and aware. I bet there are days you are handsome abd days you are beautiful and days you are a bit spicy for your own good. But you are you and that is fucking amazing.
3 months ago
IceGirl​(switch female)Verified Account - Thanks but it is odd being me. There was a time where I was really freaking out thinking I should stop the medicine because as my hormones have been properly aligned as of late my behavior and thoughts on things have definitely changed some.

I do still perfer women but lost all interest in topping it feels so wrong I love getting it and oddly my previous adverse reactions to guys have become more neutral.

Infact when my body is at peak right before ovulation I get really into men I feel like I can smell something about them that is just so much more attractive then women and there more rough strong hands become like a thing I sorta fixate on.

I have not historically been bisexual so as these sorta hormone sexual vibes have changed I kinda have tried to treat them as horrible medical side effects they aren't me.

One would argue well the medication is helping your body be how it should be and it's not wrong to find a guys attractive if you do.

I am trying to shut it down because I don't wanna be subjected to progesterone dictating my actions.
2 months ago
MissBonnie​(dom female){oz}Verified Account - I've sat here to figure out what I want to say and all of it just felt wrong. So i'm going to go with : I hate how people get so judgy when it comes gender and orientations. I really feel for you losing a friend when it sounds like her decisions aren't her own. I'm a Mother of two transgender Daughters (mtf) both suffer from body dysmorphia, both have lost friends over it and choices to do with gender/sexuality. Its just wrong.
2 months ago
IceGirl​(switch female)Verified Account - Thanks I feel you, I had a friend who was FtM kill themselves in part because there family rejected them and they couldn't live with it.

What you are doing being a mother and loving your child in the country in this current negative culture is literally saving lives.

Thank you for being amazing.
2 months ago

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