Training your slave

Dj Ulfenstein - Fair point interesting take on training method however and while respecting points of view what works for one does not work for the many i would also like to point out that not every dynamic has a master / slave relationship and not every one in the submissive caetigorey is a female let me boil it down some might run with the title of master, lord, jarl, sir, sire or dom in a male domminate role while in the female domminate role it is madam, lady, misstress, domme or dominatrix, for your subserviant or submissive catigoeries you have, submissive, pet, slave, brat, little are the ones i am currently aware of then there are the subcatigories and such and if a point system works for one great but it does not always work for everyone while this is a some what decent post i have to be honest this comes off more as a gorean fantasy related set up then anything else and here is why i state this you refered to one sex as being the submissive and you refered to them as a slave now im not sure how well knowledgable you are with bdsm but there are by far waaaaayyy more gender and nongender identifying people in the submissive role then what you have put in your post just my thoughts on this

alawey​(sub female){(OWNED BY } - Good points elder. Many of way I was giggling earlier. Which seems that my reply was removed. Humm. Whatever

Dj Ulfenstein - :/ well thats unfortunate as i would enjoy viewing others thoughts on matters such as posts like this among other posts

alawey​(sub female){(OWNED BY } - Basically I just told him I was giggling. And asked him if he wanted to know why.

But I think it was deleted due to the fact that I'm JUST A SUB.
Not really I know I'm MORE than that. Just some ppl look at subs as just that.

Dj Ulfenstein - You are way more then just a sub and it is good you realize this

CSI - Why would a newbie be a slave???

Dj Ulfenstein - Good question. Heres another, why would a newbie be a master?

ErosRising​(dom male){Hekate} - Well for me, I am a Dom. (Hypothetically) Once the dynamic I am in reaches a certain level, and it is discussed and agreed upon by myself and my partner, I will then assume the role of Master and her as slave. (Again, hypothetical dynamic).
When someone says they are a Master, I tend to ask “Of what?). Not trying to belittle, but unless you are in a dynamic that those things have been established, no one is a Master. Exception would be a Master in a particular craft such as Shibari or the like.
Again. This is just my take.

Dj Ulfenstein - Fair and valid point eros, but can anyone truly master a craft in a single life? Or does one simply feel they have mastered the craft to a level of satisfaction befiting to their level of comfort and wish to no longer learn anything new?
The glass is never half emepty, is it ever half full, but you make a very fair and valid point. And again the thing that pull my goats beard yes chuckle i made a light hearted joke, is that there was only one referance to one sex and only one side of bdsm and training and again what works for one does not work for the many.

ErosRising​(dom male){Hekate} - As far as crafts go, there are a few that you can obtain a title of Master, such as Shibari. With that being said though, even Masters still learn and advance the craft.
As far as the gender situation goes, I agree that only one gender was mentioned in the OP’s post. There however, male subs and slaves as well as the others such as gender fluids, etc.. if the OP was discussing this from his point of view and only works with females then maybe that is why only females were mentioned.
It would be important for the OP to realize that there are more people out here in those genders that are on both sides of the slash. Also, not everyone is in to or wants a M/s Dynamic.
One thing I would also like to point out is that this “training” is very reminiscent of how one goes about training a dog. It seems as if the OP is talking more about Pet Play than slave training. Again, this is just my perception of the post.

Dj Ulfenstein - Again valid points and i highly agree and im not adversed in pet play so i could not comment on it. But i do see where you are coming from on shibari. And i do still feel even with crafts such as shibari there is always room even for a master to still learn, a perfect example shibari mainly being for the asthetic, say one has mastered all the knots and ties, but wishes to as you very nicely put it advance, wants to go a step further and now wishes to create human sculptures using shiabri by using specific ties and knots to bond two or more people into a comfortable pose, a rigging of sorts if you will would that not come as a new type of craft to master? Still very valid points and has me thinking, and i absolutly love a good mind turner in the morning 🙃

ErosRising​(dom male){Hekate} - You are correct. You can master certain aspects of Shibari and still not know it all.
Another good example is Martial Arts. A Master in Tae Kwan Do is not a Master in Kempo or Ju-Jitsu. Even though they are all Martial Arts. There are such a wide array of roads in the different crafts that to become a Master of a craft in whole takes decades to achieve. And a Master, in my opinion, is one that continues to advance the craft and pushes its boundaries.

Dj Ulfenstein - Highly agree one can never truly master a craft or them selfs but rather continue learning to the highest level and keep pushing bounderies and limits, even invent new ones to test and practice.

alawey​(sub female){(OWNED BY } - I work like to thank the two of you for actually saying a great deal of what I was thinking . Mmm.... maybe seeing that this is being said by Doms. He might actually stop back by and read and understand better. Seeing that as I have already told him on another blog that what had me giggling actually had merit to what he had said here . And if he would had just asked way I was giggling ( NOTE : NOT LAUGHING) he would had seen that. I am thinking he also has an issue with listening to anything a sub may say or suggest ( see another blog also)

Dj Ulfenstein - I had seeing another post he has done and thats alright and i do hope he does look back and rethinks things, a lot of people new to the lifestyle have read waaaaaay to many fantasy novels and have some sort of deluted misconception of what bdsm truly is, there is a bond of trust understanding communication, and in some case a caring loving relationship can devolpe in a dynamic it takes work and effort and there are many trials and errors and not all dynmics work out right off the bat and thats ok bdsm is like life it is a journey ment to be enjoyed we are ment to learn and grow from every encounter we simply can not go beyond our limitations if we limit our selfs to one conformed way of thinking, look at it like this when we are kids we are taught to live breath eat a certain way and in come cases that the exploration of our bodies and urges is bad un natural and we shouldnt,however as we come into our own grow older and spread our wings we learn oh well hey sitting at the table was a way of bonding touching our selfs and exploration if our bodies is ok it helps us grow and learn trying new foods and things is awesome same wtih bdsm it is ok to explore and try new things but what i feel is not ok is taking what is read in fantasy novels and applying the up played versions of the roles into a real life way living sure sure you could use them for role play for example keep things interesting however when it comes to teaching and learning not the best way to go and as eros pointed out there is bar far a difference between pet play and slave training.