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Longer-Term D/s Considerations

Things unseen often affect relationships. This is a (perhaps infrequent) chance to look at some of them through the lens of a decade or more of online experiences with a variety of submissive partners.
6 years ago. October 28, 2018 at 7:08 PM

I only do online Domming, and I only do it with female  subs, so this reflection is limited to that world.  Perhaps it applies to Dommes and male subs, or same sex D/s..but I have no feelings about those relationships.

So, between a male Dominant, and an online female sub, where does trust really begin?  I'm going to posit there is a single action, a tipping point,  where a Dom can actually see that trust has really happened with his sub.

No, I don't think it is when the conversation finally gets around to the Dom requiring a specific act of submission.  That back and forth can go on for weeks, months even, I think, without being 'real' submission.  Why not?  Because everyone in The Cage is masquerading.  We have Cage names, cage profiles which may or may not reflect the real person behind the words, or even the images. With being identifiable real people, it is still forms of safe play online.

There ARE elements of necessary safety in this for any submissive cautiously approaching a new  D/s relationship, especially online. In some ways this can be a world of smoke and mirrors, of shape-shifters on both sides of the divide.

So how does a Dom know, for a certainty, that he has earned real trust?   And how does a sub realize she does, in reality, trust her new Dom?

I will suggest in the majority of cases, it is this one single act.  It matters not of the Dom requires it, or if the sub offers it.

 

Real trust between an online sub and her Dom happens when she transmits to him her identifiable face atop her bared breasts, or her fully naked body. 

 

By the single act of sending a topless or naked selfie with her own face included, she has told him that she KNOWS  the internet is awash in images of women who disrobed, and then found themselves embarrassingly posted somewhere online. She is taking a huge leap in trusting him.

To accept that risk, to trust a new Dom-- isn't this the defining moment of real, actual trust?

 

Only a real shit would trample on that trust, seems to me.  He must know the gift he has been given, of the trust behind that first unwrapped image.  But there are real shits out there in Domland.  Still, she has made the decision.  She trusts.

 

I'd be curious if I am close to what goes through the mind of female online subs on proclaiming trust through an act... What was your defining act of real trust?

TakenLower - Hmmm I don’t think that the action of sending a picture that has the potential to be used as trust. I see it as risk assessment at first. Someone thinks you are worth the risk, and send you a picture the next what you do or don’t do with that picture builds the trust.
6 years ago
Bunnie - I can understand what it is that you’re saying. And for myself, that’s definitely a big one. I realised that I trusted my Sir when I was prepared to share personal information with him (ie real name etc.). I understand that for some, that’s no biggie, but I’m a very very private person. He’d probably laugh if he saw this. But my motto is that once it’s out there, you can’t take it back, so decide wisely who you give your info to.
6 years ago
Thecharmedmuse​(switch female){My Wildman} - That’s a good thought provoking question. I would say my ultimate act of trust with my online Dom was exposing my feelings to Him. Ultimately it is when I said I belonged to Him.
6 years ago
CrimsonPaw - For me, it's letting them have access to me outside of the Cage. Giving them my name, phone number, and including them in my daily plans even if it's not BDSM related.
6 years ago
Bunnie - Agreed Am
6 years ago
shahh - Well, after reading this post i certainly have a better understanding of D/s trust dynamics. In fact ...i trust even more that doms who believe nude selfies increase trust are not to be trusted. Trust me.
6 years ago
sweet november​(sub female) - He's saying he understands the trust that must take to show one's face. Not trying to get naked pictures.
Anyway, trust is reaching out when not in play and getting a caring reply, trust is being able to feel like you can talk about anything, trust is knowing if you make a mistake, discipline will be fair, or just a talking to. Trust is letting that person see your vulnerabilities and that's scary. And they still talk to you. Trust is knowing that you both may have a bad or busy day and that's ok.
Trust is so much and can be ruined in a second. By both Dom and sub.

And yes, thank you for saying that there are not nice people out there that would post nudes of you to their friends. There are also black mailers and just picture seekers.

I would imagine any victim of this would take a lot of trust to send that kind of picture ever again!
6 years ago
sweet november​(sub female) - And I trust Cap'n Rick who has shown nothing but respect and friendship towards me. Get really tired of the judging and assuming.
6 years ago
TakenLower - https://thecage.co/blog/userblog.php?postid=6726&blog_id=8045
6 years ago

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