Simple Chaos

Literate Lycan​(dom male) - My apologies, but it appears you are exactly asking if the Dominant is willing to crawl submissively as in “don’t ask of one what you are unwilling to give yourself.” Simple response: I would hope I have what it takes to do whatever it takes, but who knows in the moment if I wouldn’t go running screaming in fear.

That being said, we each bring something to the table. Dominants bring Dominance; submissives bring submission. I’m also “primal” in that I don’t see crawling as necessarily submissive (although it can be highly sensuous and sexual). But I digress. As a Switch, I can only guess you enjoy and participate in both sides of the slash. But many (many) prefer and enjoy one side or the other (both in themselves and their partners). ie. Most submissives wouldn’t want their Dominant to . . . crawl. Interesting question.

Max Heathen​(other male) - To crawl or not to crawl... I am analytical so the noble disney response is to crawl because of my love for my slave.

The realistic answer is a predatory animal is efficient at killing and my Slave would be dead in 20 seconds... she is rather fragile and in the said scene, unconscious.
Even at a full run, few could cross 100 yards in 20sec (if anybody could). So crawling would be useless.
Satan is the prince of lies, master of deceit so in the above case, the devil is the details & lack thereof. Nothing says he can't sic those dogs on you as you crawl, but you can't rise so you also can't defend against them (as though a mortal would stand a chance). Once your dead, the contact is void and they can consume her also.
So yeah... I die with her if crawl & I die with her if I run.
I have four children, two grandchildren and there are still worth living for so I'd Nope the fuck out and set up a shrine to her memory.

AdamDragon​(dom male) - Looking at this with the intent of seeing the much bigger picture ahead, My answer is yes. To save her from the hounds of hell or dogs of war, I would do that which I know she would do for Me if it were reversed. That love of M-D/s is above any level imaginable and knowing she would do the same, speaks volumes. Fealty is a profound action and at times, requires whatever it takes.

Moonlighter​(dom male) - I'm thinking back to the last deep relationship I had, she was a strong woman, very career orientated and determined to get what she wanted out of life, submissive in the bedroom so as to have a release from all that pressure.

Would I crawl submissively to save her? I would better describe it as on all fours, hackles raised snarling back at the hellhound for daring to approach someone I cared about. Whether still in that dynamic or not.

For as was said in the episode "A good man goes to war" of Dr Who;
"The wrath of a good man is nothing to fear. Good men, have too many rules."
"Good men don't need rules, today is not the day to find out why I have so many."

.... There and again I grew up with few friends so end up very protective of the ones I have.

SirsBabyDoll​(sub female){Pizza+☕} - I can't help but have the jingle, "What would you do-oo-oo, for a Klondike bar" run through my head. "What would you do-oo-oo, for your submissive?"

Let's change the analogy you posed around to something a tad more realistic.

Hell could be representative of introspection. The hounds could be negative emotions, such as fear, rage, anxiety, sexual limits, preconceived notions of kink.

Dominants constantly ask their submissives to confront those "hounds" for the good of the dynamic.

So the question is not, would you crawl to your submissive, but, would YOU, as the Dominant, confront what you fear for the good of the dynamic? Would you lead that journey of traveling through the hell of introspection by example? Would YOU be able to do what you ask if your submissive and confront your own hounds?

In my experience, not many are willing or able to go as deeply as they ask their submissive to go.

DaddyDrago{LilAmethys} - Absolutely!!
In fact, I have little hesitation when it comes to doing what is required of myself to protect those within my sphere of care. Including doing that work which others fear to do. What else would actually make me dominant except that I face my fears head on (however they need to be faced) so that I can actually take a submissive (in this writings postulation) by the hand and lead them out of the fire? Otherwise, if I actually did manage to get to her how would I know how to fight those hounds of hell and defeat them (or at least keep them at bay) except that I already battled with them within myself?
How can I lead someone out of a fire if I am directionless? If I do not know which way is best to get out of the circumstance the hounds of hell would only end up with two tasty treats instead of one.
It would make no sense whatsoever for me to ask another to follow where I myself have not walked. I would only lead them down a road that even I would get lost on.
We could battle the path together......sure........for a time. But one of us is going to get picked off!!! The blind leading the blind is not really a healthy or safe direction or purpose. If a submissive is to follow you they must know when the hounds of hell do come you know EXACTLY how to navigate the situation to best keep them safe. If, as a dominant, one has not traveled that road it would be a challenge for anyone to actually believe and follow you know how best to protect and lead them safely out of the pit.

The airplane analogy.......

There is a reason why they tell parents to put on the breathing mask in an emergency BEFORE you put it on your child. Because if you cannot be lucid, awake, breathing sufficiently to be able to apply the mask to your child AND therefore keeping them safe throughout the calamity at hand because you put on your mask first, it does little good to forget yourself, put the mask on your child and pass out. Your child needs you to be there for them, more than just that moment, but ongoing.

SirsBabyDoll​(sub female){Pizza+☕} - Unfortunately, there are many Doms who think that their shear existence in the submissives lives should be sufficient to beat off the hounds, some who refuse to enter the fray and calling it a "drama free life", and others who see the hounds but command the submissive to just simply move past the hounds as if they do not exist and THEN, when the submissive fails (or worse, doesn't "ignore the hounds") and has the TEMERITY to try to understand the hounds, and make friends with the hounds....well, they get punished and told they are a bad submissive. 🙄

DaddyDrago{LilAmethys} - I admit to not understanding this reasoning. Meaning, literally, what you state in it's entirety makes zero sense to me. I cannot imagine what you are even speaking to. Sincerely.
Would you be willing to dumb it down for me? Explain it another way so that I can try to gain some understanding?

SirsBabyDoll​(sub female){Pizza+☕} - *damn I'm glad I copy/saved my comment! I had to close the window and reboot. Let's try this again.

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I'm not sure if I should pay myself on the back for being able to stump the professor....and really question my own perceptions cause it makes sense to me! 🤣🤣🤣

Ok, let's define the environment to ensure we are all on the same page:

Hounds=fears and other uncomfortable emotions.

Hell=the internal, emotional world.

The Submissive= the PERSON (if the Dom is taking the journey past their hounds, they are the "submissive" experiencing the Hounds.

The Dominant= the person who is external of the submissives hell (remember, hell is internal) who is leading (for lack of a better word) the journey out.

There are many dominants who are NOT like you, Drago. They refuse to be introspective in order to gain the experience needed to be able to guide the submissive out when THEY are in hell.

There are other Dominants who are looking for someone who is "drama free" thus, they are refusing to even enter hell.

There are still other who simply say, "Let it go. Dont think about it.", fully expecting the submissive to SUDDENLY and magically (as if it was just his presence that made the hounds disappear) be able to move past their fears.

When the submissive fails (because seriously, if we could just close our eyes and move past our fears, don't they think we would have tried it already? "Oh THAAAANK YOU BIG MANLY Dom for stating the obvious course of action! I'm so stupid for not having tried it before." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣), So, when a submissive FAILS to be able to move past those fears and attempts to get to know the fears (introspection) and befriend the fears (grace) they get told they are a bad submissive because they didn't do it the way the Dom commanded and because of that, the submissive that was laying on the floor is no longer the same submissive (personal growth).

The Dom expected the fears to completely disappear. They never do. They get tamed. They also rear their ugly heads now and again and that's why the Dom gets angry at the submissive.

Did I miss anything? Did it help?

DaddyDrago{LilAmethys} - Ok. THAT I understand!!!

Thank you for taking the time to school this slow dominant!!!! 😜

Would you say, a dominant that thinks this way is someone who has no emotional awareness? Are they too closed off from themselves to see reality??

It kind of seems so?
Where would you say this kind of thinking stems from?

SirsBabyDoll​(sub female){Pizza+☕} - You're not slow. I'll just assume that you need more caffeine or a nap. 🤭😁🤭

If you put a muzzle on an aggressive dog, it doesn't stop the dog from being aggressive. It still wants to bite and tear you to pieces. It also doesn't take a bunch of time.

Taking the time to TRAIN the dog takes work and a certain amount of bravery. You take a risk of getting bit. That bite (and not blaming the dog itself but you, for not handling the dog properly) is called accountability. Shame over being fallible is a heavy weight to carry.

DaddyDrago{LilAmethys} - Hmmmmm,
I wouldn't disagree.
Lack of accountability is a huge thing.

What I hear you expressing is some people do not want to take responsibility and risk failure (in their eyes)?

It is funny. I used to think this way. Do not risk making the mistake.....just expect perfection or "drama free" as you put it.

I have come to learn, I WILL make the mistake......absolutely no doubt.........and I get to prepare for that reality. By being someone that learns how to handle a set back or a challenge not as something to be conquered as much as simply healthily navigated. If I can manage to navigate the challenge healthily that is honestly conquering it. Because, as you pointed to, there will NEVER be a time a challenge will not be present. I am never going to solve all the things. The best I can do is solve how I handle all the things. If I can do that......I win.

SirsBabyDoll​(sub female){Pizza+☕} - And THAT, my dear and beautiful friend, is "training the dog".

I'mME - I would say the answer to the why a Dominant tells a submissive to get over something, could be that is how they handle their own demons, pretending they do not see the demon.

Lady Stone - Sirsbabydoll.....LMMFAO!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣 Many have indeed thought to simply muzzle the dog, and cammand it's obedience, because they are big strong master who knows best.
They learned..... in the end, that indeed, my bite is worse than my bark.

SirsBabyDoll​(sub female){Pizza+☕} - Please, save your fingers and just call me SBD. It's ok, I promise..

As for the Dog, the dog is fears, not you. YOU have to train the hounds. That's on you. A Dom, however, needs to train HIS hounds, not just muzzle them.

Lady Stone - SBD.....The hounds in my posed question, do represent fear as well as many other things. The dog in which I referred to in my comment, is ........ a hound of a different color... lol 😂😂 such as the one I make mention of in my blog post "emotional "
Imma dive a little deeper here.... can a wild feral dog make friends and play nice with hell hounds.? I'm not sure thats really the question.....
Should an already half crazed wild feral dog make friends and play with hell hounds?
There's a kind of peace that would come from staying in the pit..... it would ensure none would be able to get close enough to be of any threat.....
Oh who am I kidding..... I wake up in the pit....I'm banging it out with the hounds, satan, doms...... who ever and what ever. Counter productive you say....... bet your ass it is..... and therein lies the rub.....its the only way I know to survive ... no matter how deeply I fall into this pit, I'm never gonna just give up and let it take my soul...... I may never see my way clear of it all together ........
Damn...I done took off in to some shit...... LOLOLOL Imma post it anyways.. for shits and giggles.

SirsBabyDoll​(sub female){Pizza+☕} - Thank you for sharing. Having been in that place, let me ask you this, would you like to get out of the pit? Would you like to finally be able to sleep without the nightmares, be able to be around people without having to feel like you have to keep your guard up? Would you like to be able to smile for no fucking reason at all and NOTICE it?