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Drinfear's Ravings

The ravings of the lunatic known here as Drinfear.. Various antics, advice and incidents that have happened over My 30 years living the Lifestyle..
9 months ago. January 23, 2024 at 5:24 PM

 Imagine if you will, meeting a girl and discussing the possibility of collaring.. Several sessions together over a few weeks and even sending her a Contract to be agreed upon.. 

 One evening you met her at her abode, have a session, which leaves her barely able to sit, and happy as a pig in mud.. You drive Home contemplating the evening, and when You arrive there, take a shot to relax, then call her on the phone to see how well she enjoyed the session.. Halfway through the call, out of the blue, she hangs the phone up.. When you call back (several times {which *I* Personally} would never do to begin with, and giggles as she ignores the rings..)

 How would YOU react to such a situation?

 

 I have MY views on this subject, which I will post after having others weigh in on it, but wanted to hear the thoughts of others here before doing so..

 

Dom

vv V vv​(sadist male) - Call back once to make sure the call didn’t drop, leave one message. That’s it.
9 months ago
nettiK - She may be dealing with sub drop. Some people giggle/laugh during stressful events. Did the Dom provide aftercare?
9 months ago
Drinfear​(dom male){Owns PFP} - The situation doesn't directly explain this, and do not know, to be honest, but with the experience BOTH have in the lifestyle, I can't help but think it WAS provided.. She wanted to be a 'brat' and chose THAT way to do so.
9 months ago
dollMaker​(dom male) - Firstly, after a few weeks and talking about collaring, way too soon. Talking over a period of time, meet a few times at a vanilla place, coffee shop discuss vanilla stuff, see how you get on and then if all going well maybe then arrange a light, highly controlled introductory play session, created to suit the persons level of experience, and see where things go from there. But collaring after just a short period of time, way too soon and frankly a red flag regarding the dominant.

Secondly it is possible that the scene in question was too much too soon, and without proper aftercare, needs built in after the scene, and days after. Some, as mentioned above, do react to the sensations and feeling after a scene with giggling and laughing which is a sort of going non verbal if during the scene if a few hours after its hard to know whats happening, but drop could be a reason and the call being stopped could be buyers remorse, feelings of shame, disgust, not knowing how to process the feelings that can be created after a scene, so they hang up, easier than trying to process things infront of the dom/top.

I would definitely ring back and try, very gently, carefully to find out whats up and offer the suitable support etc to fit whatever was occuring. Its a dom/tops responsibility both during, and after a scene to care for the bottom/sub. The scene hasn't ended until the sub/bottom has processed dealt with, and come out the otherside, however long that takes. Some don't need any of this, no drop, no aftercare but many do, and if they are new may not underside why they feel as they do, after scene feelings and thoughts can be very intense and a big challenge to navigate/process, particularly, but not exclusively if new to the scene, or to a particular type of toy etc.

Playing with anyone, whether once or many times comes with a massive responsibility to look after the sub afterwards, as well as during.

Without knowing more, its hard to say more, but those are a few of my thoughts.
9 months ago
Drinfear​(dom male){Owns PFP} - I DO understand your concerns, and though normally I agree, this 'rule' is not a 'cookie cutter' answer to or for each and every girl.. My current little, Natalie, and I spoke online and via phone or text for a month and a half before agreeing to meet face to face.. The night W/we met, she was MINE as soon as I opened the door and came face to face with her. SHE knew it, I knew it. She has been with Me 6 and a half years now, and will never go anywhere else as long as I live.. We met online in Mid September, met face to face at the end of October, and have been happily married since Dec 5th, 2017..
9 months ago
LongerJohnny​(dom male) - To summarize:
A Dom has had a good night with a sub he has been getting to know and playing with for a few weeks, but who is not his sub yet.
Eventually they are both at their own homes, on the phone with each other, and the call abruptly ends.

Ok, here's the thing:
From this Dom's perspective he has no idea what is happening on her end of the line. He doesn't know that she hung up on him intentionally or that she is ignoring the ringing or that she is giggling.
He might assume she is being a brat - which is really something he should have been prepared for since they have been getting to know each other for a few weeks! - but he doesn't know if she is. He can assume anything he wants, but he doesn't actually know why the call ended that way.
WE only know that because you have told us.

How he should react - she is not his sub and she doesn't answer to him. So he can call her back or not, or wait for her to call him or not, it doesn't really matter. But if he does call and she doesn't answer, he should leave a message.
How I would react - I wouldn't have to because I would never be in a relationship with a brat.

Actually, I'm more interested in why you would adamantly refuse to ever call her back?
9 months ago
Drinfear​(dom male){Owns PFP} - As I have explained to LL on one of His posts, *I* have a 'secret weapon' which enhances ALL of My abilities as a Dom.. I* was born a natural Empath, which means I read emotions like a Telepath reads minds.. *I*, personally, would have understood what the girl was about to do and admonished, maybe even CHASTISED her, for considering it.. I would NOT have known about the giggling aspect until such time as I spoke to her again, but I specialize in taming brats, and welcome them.. The bigger the challenge the better, that being said I have also submitted a lesbian Domme AND a lesbian Mistress in My time.. Few would ever attempt such feats.. Angel, My former slave that introduced Me to the site, can verify Mistress Sapphire's willingness to submit, if she chooses.. She was Owned by Me at the time.. As for not calling her back, as previously stated, I'd have known what she was about to do, and after admonishing her, if she did so ANYWAY, would have proven her lack of respect for ME, despite sessions shared and emotions discussed..
9 months ago
flitter'fly​(sub female) - Lol
I read the actual blog in question. (fictional) by the way. 😉
Lol
Anyway, it does indeed state that he did call back several times.

As for what I believe he could have done.
Like others have stated, she was either brating, or in sub drop. Or more then likely both.
Also probably trying to see what she could get away with.

Like some have stated, she is not his sub, and also he has rushed into this with her, intierly to fassssst.

Now he could have tried calling back left a message, as previously stated.
Waited till he felt she calmed.

But as a Dom, and knowing this lifestyle.
In my opinion, he should have then went back over to her home, made certain she were okay.

Also, if I may interject.
Dollmaker gave to you clear, and valid points and answered the question at hand.
You, however, chose to take that a bit personal in my opinion and missed the point completely.
Rather than thanking him for his advice, or adding to his answers to you.
You instead chose, to talk about an entirely different matter all together.

With all due respect I might add.

Staying on topic is a hard thing for me as well.
But learning to do so when asking specifically for things weather or not you agree, is key.

Respectful and with tack, as you are in response, you often get off topic.
😊🤗

Just my own subby opinion.
No offense intended Dom.

Hope this helps
And that I have not overstepped.



9 months ago
Drinfear​(dom male){Owns PFP} - You help keep Me grounded, bam bam, and I appreciate you pointing out My shortcomings, when they appear.. I have yet to take offense at anything you have said so far, and hope it stays that way..
9 months ago
I'mME - Drinfear,
How would you know they are giggling while ignoring one's phone calls?

If it's a matter of concern, would it be about whether they were having second thoughts, some type of unusual pain has come up, the fact they hung up abruptly ...

I would venture that a person who did this , it wouldn't be their first time w shenanigans.
So that puts the question back into the Doms court.


9 months ago
Drinfear​(dom male){Owns PFP} - Again, without speaking to the girl, I would NOT know about the giggling, until such time as I spoke to her again, and her heart spoke to Me confessing her indiscretion.. THEN it would become an issue, and would be addressed.. But her not answering My first call to re-establish communication would be proof to ME that the disconnection was intentional, and make Me re-evaluate the entire relationship from a respect perspective.. I MIGHT leave a message, but I'm not known for doing so..
9 months ago
Drinfear​(dom male){Owns PFP} - But on the SAME hand, shenanigans are ONE thing.. Blatant disrespect is totally different..
9 months ago
I'mME - Okay, but things happen. Like an emergency trip to the bathroom. That could prevent answering a call. If someone keeps ringing my number, after I didn't pick up, I'm going to get pissed. I'm just one to look at things from all sides.
However I would not hang up on someone unless they are hollering at me. I just hung up on someone yesterday. Lol.

I'm a question asker, however, people these days will ignore a direct question, online and in person. That is the epitome of crapiness, and I made a promise to myself to never address them or ask anything ever again. I feel good about the decision.
9 months ago
Literate Lycan​(dom male) - In summation, you’ve know each other a while, have discussed the potential of a collar, even shared a contract for discussion and have had a number of play sessions. Ok. So if you’re at this point, you’ve no doubt established the basic personalities and types. Dominant, submissive, Master, slave, brat, little, middle, bottom, top, vanilla, rocky road and who is the sadist and who is the masochist . . . And all the other expanding colors of the rainbow as they come out. But . . . at a minimum, as LJ touched upon in his response, her being a brat should have come out in the previous weeks of dialogue so it should have been known and to what degree. It’s important.

From the outside looking in, if I’m at the point of playing I’ve grown to know her well enough to know what her tendencies are. If she has brat tendencies then it will be part of our evolution and I’ll know before we play. I prefer thoroughness. And from the scenario, there have been several sessions already. I’m just assuming this is the first time the phone has gone dead.

I’ll start by offering, if I’ve driven home after a tasty session, I doubt I need anything to relax. 😏 But I could handle a nice beverage to enjoy. I’m having one now.

If while we are talking she suddenly drops the line, I don’t know how many times I might call back. But I’ll have a good idea either she’s being a brat because it’ll have come out by now or I’ll assume something may be wrong. Hopefully topics of possible medical conditions have also been discussed (is she possibly epileptic). Regardless and quite honestly, there is a good chance she’ll find me back at her door, politely knocking to ensure two things.
1. She is safe.
2. She gets her brat put back in the box in a fun way.
Because if she’s bratting then that is part of our evolving dynamic.
But that is my perspective from the outside looking in. Too many other unknowns and who knows how one would honestly act given the situation.

Interesting hypothetical.
LL
9 months ago
Drinfear​(dom male){Owns PFP} - Boss? I LOVE the way You think.. Back in the box in a 'fun' way is something I've never heard before.. (AND My apologies for the late response, but I was preparing the ingredients for potato soup, then also on the phone with someone VERY important to Me and My little.. (HI! bam bam!!) *I* too, have had an adult beverage or three.. (Personal preference, Johnny Walker Blue, but at the moment, I'm drinking Vodka (Karkov, though normally I drink quad cold filtered Frïs from Norway.. )
YES it should be apparent that she is a brat, over the various discourses and interactions that are made, and, as I have disclosed to You, Boss, I have other 'secret weapons' at My disposal to help Me determine other aspects beyond the normal scope.. (I have another here now that can vouch for this, but only SHE will decide when, or IF, she chimes in on the subject, but I KNOW she has a smile on her face right now after over 4 hours together on the phone tonight.. (Right, bam bam?))
ALL of My faculties are aimed at making sure the girl, or GIRLS, in My life are taken care of, safe, cared for and happy..
9 months ago
flitter'fly​(sub female) - My thought exactly.
Thank You LL
9 months ago
Jack in the box -
As LL stated, too many unknowns.
Assuming smart phones are being used, I would simply text a question mark and leave it at that - ive had this happen before.
9 months ago
Drinfear​(dom male){Owns PFP} - Thanks for your input, Jack.. I've had this happen more than a couple times.. (or worse, to be perfectly honest, and there's ONE here that knows the lengths I will go through to ensure someone in My life is alright.. MY life is secondary to the safety and protection of the girl or girls in My life..
9 months ago
Jack in the box -
Right, right - apart from safety or health concerns
9 months ago
Drinfear​(dom male){Owns PFP} - MY safety is NOT a concern when it comes to someone I care for.. I will give MY life happily if it saves someone I love, Boss.. But then I'd give My life for ANYONE.. I'm the frickin ijit running TOWARDS the gun fire or just the fire, PERIOD.. *I* am blessed, and ALWAYS live, whether I WANT to or not.. It's My curse.. (A Family curse)
9 months ago
Sir Don​(dom male){Nt looking} - After reading and rereading the blog and then reading the responses.
I will agree with what Longer Johnny, LL and I'mME , FlitterFly , yes you too Jack
Maybe I am just simple mind and not seeing things the way you are portraying things . Over I am overthinking things . Simply put you are asking about a specific thing with very little to go on. Speculation can be misconstrued, but to answer the question " How would I handle a situation like that?" I would probably be at her place like LL said. That way all confusing things are then taken out of the equation.
9 months ago
Sir Don​(dom male){Nt looking} - Apologies for typos and poor grammar
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Lol
9 months ago

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