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4 years ago. May 31, 2020 at 1:36 PM

Ok I'm asking this question after a discussion about it. Can a sexual position be deemed not submissive? Position in question is cowgirl or reverse cowgirl, keep in mind spanking can be applied to both ways. Both subs had the same opinion that they felt they weren't submissive but being the dominant one while in this position. My opinion is as long as the master/dominant is in control then he is still the dominant one he just likes the position. Views, comments, and opinions are welcome from all. Going to bed my beautiful friends. Hope everyone has a wonderful day. 😊❤

sir james ladies​(sub female){oh yes ple} - at least at some point sir would say **uk me like the bei** you are. this was his way of telling us to get on top.he would put his hands behind his head and say now empress me.
4 years ago
HGB​(sub female){Scottish M} - I see any command, expectation is to be fulfilled. Besides a Dominant deserves to relax a little and have his cock rode. You can kick back and enjoy the ride and view, you can play with things, hold em down, wjat ever you please.
Besides getting into physical limitations a Dominant may have and needing to serve HIM however necessary.
Only downside is a leg cramp.
4 years ago
SirsBabyDoll​(sub female){Pizza+☕} - The leg cramps suck!
4 years ago
SirsBabyDoll​(sub female){Pizza+☕} - There is something called a "service top". A service top is still a submissive even if they are physically in an elevated position. When a woman is giving a blow job, she is above the man...does that mean she is a dominant? No. She is providing pleasure to the man (and taking some for herself too). When I perform cock worship, I am giving pleasure to the man but daaaamn does it feel good for me too.

An a body position does not change my heart. I will always be a submissive, even if he is trussed up like a Xmas turkey.
4 years ago
Morley​(sub female){Max Sterne} - The position itself is not where submission lies, it's in the act. If a Dom says "get on top" then it's how he wants to be "serviced" , hence submission.
4 years ago
Grey Eyes​(sub female){Owned} - I agree that a Dom is still dominant when I am in the cowgirl position. Never once crossed my mind that it would be anything different than that.
4 years ago
propertyforuse​(sub female) - My Daddy likes me on top but I don't feel less submissive because of it. I do it because Daddy likes and wants it. Most men like a woman on top because of the visual. And since its my duty to do what I am told, I do it.

I guess I don't view things as whether something, anything is "submissive" or "dominant". If Daddy wants, Daddy gets. :)
4 years ago
DaddyDrago​(dom male){LilAmethys} - Age old question........What is considered submission and what is considered dominance and where do we draw the line?

There's as many answers as there are people.
IF it doesn't feel acceptable to you and you feel like you're 'topping' (pun intended) so be it. Either say you're not comfortable with it or shift your mindset.
The same conversation has been had of dominants whether their truly dominant if they eat pussy. It's seen as too weak. Giving pleasure is too much like service, which is submission.
Where do we each draw the line?
That's all that matters really.
4 years ago
Sir Don​(dom male){Nt looking} - Well i think position is a matter of choice.. as is eating pussy. My concept is that a dominant should take care of the sub. For me that means if eating pussy is servicing then she gets service everyway i can..But ultimately it is my choice.
4 years ago
Lion​(dom male){Hazel Eyes} - Great points of view everyone, I would never demand my beautiful lioness to do anything she felt uncomfortable with. I think it's totally up to everyone to decide what works and doesn't work in their own dynamics. Hope everyone has a wonderful day. 🦁
4 years ago
slaveMikayla​(sub female){MstrJ } - I hadn't seen this, somehow it got lost in the thread. I rarely discuss sexuality openly, but i will say that i understand being uncomfortable with these positions. Blerg... i'm having a hard time writing this response. :/
No, there is nothing that exists that is inherently dominant or submissive (points to the image we so often see of the Dom tying his submissive's shoelace.)
That said, it depends on what the psychological draw of the physical aspects of kink and the physical aspects of submission are to the submissive. Here is where I'm going to struggle to make this impersonal. Part of the responsibility of the Master is teaching his slave (or Dominant/submissive whatever the person idenitfies their dynamic as) how he prefers to be served. That includes helping her get over those mental obstacles. This is one I identify with. It helps to identify WHY she feels concerned and WHY other things are "fun" and then bridge the gap.
There are a myriad of ways to do this, one that I know has worked with me in the past is that anything introduced while in subspace immediately clears those hurdles. Fear, inhibition, insecurity do not exist in that space in time. The use of a leash at moments like that can also help, i know i know props... except props exist for a reason, they help set a certain frame of mind. For me (I cant get this point across imprersonally) that physical connection is essential when in subspace. It is that physical representation of the safety. It ISNT about force, it ISNT about "make me" it is about "i've got you". That will not come across the same way to every submsisive/slave.
If she feels uncomfortable like it is too Dominant for her, then talk about WHY... why does it feel too dominant to you? She may not even know. I famously had a conversation on a different site on the forums with a D type explaining that I'd never let someone to *specific sexual act* to me, because #1 it put him in an incredible place of power as far as I'm concerned and that was something i'm not willing to give up easily. It is earmarked for my forever. and #2 because at the same time it also makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable nbecause my mind is constantly shouting very unpleasant things at me "he is only doing this because i want it" "he doesnt really want" etc etc etc. That is one of the reasons restraints appeal to me mentally... because those voices CANT exist. they are completely illogical. If you can identify the root of the feelings, then you can address them both in discussion, and creating the scene around making those arguments moot.
4 years ago
slaveMikayla​(sub female){MstrJ } - My inbox is always open to her if she would ever like to talk through anything, if you find it might be helpful.
4 years ago
Lion​(dom male){Hazel Eyes} - I will let her know.
4 years ago
slaveMikayla​(sub female){MstrJ } - I'm sorry, this might have come across wrong. I know that you are far more capable than i am. i was not trying to communicate that I thought otherwise. It was more my trying to offer an ear from the perspective of someone who has and is in a similar place and has found a way around or out of it. I know full well that you are more than capable, far more than anyone outside of your relationship. You have my respect.
4 years ago
Lion​(dom male){Hazel Eyes} - My friend I value your opinion, I read it as helpful information. Thank you for your concern. 😊
4 years ago

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