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Just posting some of my thoughts about kink.
3 years ago. August 6, 2021 at 12:43 AM

I know I generally use this space to talk more academically about kink (and occasionally write erotica) but, for this post I just want to share something that's been on my mind and vent a little. Standard disclaimers apply: these are my thoughts based on my experiences. This is not meant to suggest that these experiences and feelings are the only correct ones or to imply that other experiences and feelings are less important. Just sharing my thoughts through my own personal lens.

I often have a weird concern as I date and try to find a partner that shares my love of D/s. Perhaps this is needless worrying (I do have a tendency to overthink things) but I find I can't help it. I often worry if I come off as "dominant enough" to potential partners.

There are a couple pieces to this. First of all, I know I don't come off as particularly kinky or dominant in my everyday life. I suspect friends and colleagues would be shocked to know the things I'm into. Personally, I like it this way. I've never been the "alpha-male" type and, outside the classroom, I don't try to project dominance or authority. I like the fact that my dominance is reserved for my significant other. I see a lot of memes about how submission is a gift that a sub only shares with her dom. I have similar feelings about my dominance. It is a role and responsibility I adopt within a special relationship, not something I constantly project to everyone around me.

Second, I absolutely want to avoid overstepping or being too forward with a potential partner (especially in the early stages of dating). While the ultimate goal is to find a partner that gives power to me; until that if officially established, I want to treat any potential dates the way I would treat anyone else, as an equal in every sense. As such, I'm reluctant to take charge too much when it comes to planning a date or steering a conversation.

Further contributing to my reluctance to be too forward is the nature of online dating itself and dating within the kink community in particular. Online dating can be an intimidating thing and you encounter a lot of scumbags. Within the world of kink, I'm aware of the horror stories that you hear far too often about people (mostly men is the sense I get) claiming to be doms and using that as an excuse to be pushy, rude, sexist, threatening, etc. More than anything, I don't want anyone to think I'm one of those guys. Thus, I avoid being being too forward or coming on too strong.

Now, none of these things would be an issue with online dating in general. I'm happy to take a relaxed, laid-back approach. I want my potential partner and myself to take time to get to know each other and find out if we're compatible in non-kink ways. However, I also know my potential partner is looking for a dom as well as a boyfriend just like I'm looking for a sub as well as a girlfriend. So, I find myself worrying that I don't come off as dominant enough in my interactions. I find myself worrying that the person I'm talking to will like me as a person but have reservations about my desire to be a dom.

I also wonder if submissives have comparable concerns (would love to hear from s-types about this). Do subs feel pressure to simultaneously signal submissiveness (or a desire to submit to the right person) while also asserting their independence and total equality until they have chosen to submit? Do subs worry that taking the lead in conversation or taking the initiative and asking the other person out will call their submissiveness into question?

I don't really have an answer to any of this. I'm still feeling my way through. As with most things, I think clear communication is the best way to overcome this obstacle but it's still a challenge that I'm figuring out.

---Alright, I can't resist slipping a little academia into this. Signaling capabilities and intentions seems to be a core part of human and animal interactions. Natural selection seems to regularly favor creatures that can successfully signal fitness or danger (whether real or not). A rattlesnake's rattle or poison tree frog's bright colors signal very real danger and deter attack. Other, completely harmless, animals display similar bright colors to signal danger where none actually exists. Sadly there doesn't appear to be a reliable signal for dominance or submission when it comes to dating. Any potential signal could easily be misinterpreted. Further, abusers and scumbags muddy the waters by trying to send the same dominance signals. Like carnivorous plants or anglerfish, they attempt to mask the danger they pose by sending false signals to lure in victims. As long as there are abusive individuals who mask their abuse with kink, it will be difficult to signal true dominance without risking being mistaken for one of the bad guys.

Perhaps a more apt analogy comes from International Relations. A great deal of research in the field deals with how countries can signal their intentions and capabilities for the purposes of deterring attack or promoting cooperation. Given the dangers of war and the fear all leaders have of being caught off guard, is it possible for rivals to mutually disarm and cooperate with one another even if both sides truly want to? Can each side overcome fear and mistrust and work towards peace? How can a leader signal to their counterpart that they truly want to cooperate? It would seem D/s daters face similar challenges. Given the challenges and risks inherent to dating, how can trust be built between two people who don't know one another's intentions to begin with? How can both parties reliably signal their true indentions and accurately interpret the signals of the other? Again, ongoing communication would seem to be the key. That or offering to withdraw a tank division from your date's borders but that's a logistical nightmare.

SirsBabyDoll​(sub female){Pizza+☕} - To answer your two questions, for me "yes" and "yes".

I LOVE the anglerfish analogy! The depths of human psychology is like the midnight zone. Each time you dive deep within the Self, you find glorious new wonders to behold while at the same time, being fully cognizant that at any moment, something could go wrong and you could implode. However, somehow, we never really do so long as we keep swimming.
3 years ago
Gaiawolf​(sub female){RogueWolf} - To answer your question from a subs point of view, I am extremely hesitant to make the first move as I have been told that is how a fake sub acts. Real submissive wait to be noticed and they go at whatever pace the Dom sets. Granted most who says this I know are fakes, but a few real Doms have said this also.
3 years ago
alawey​(sub female){(OWNED BY } - Ok I can see what you are saying about how fake subs act. But both sides of the slash control the speed.
3 years ago
alawey​(sub female){(OWNED BY } - Well all I can say is that when it's right it is right. And you won't need to be worried about any of that.

And that I think it is great that you want to take ur time getting to know the person outside of kink also.

As far as being a sub and bring worried about doing things and making me appear less a sub.
For me that is a BIG NO. Fir I am a strong female who chooses to submit to MY DOM . i
When we were in the friends stage and getting to know each other more I never hide how I was or tried to be something other than me.
3 years ago
Redheadedgirl​(sub female) - I didn't know that fake subs would initiate asking a Dom to meet.. interesting.. I think that it's okay to be nervous at first when dating. I think any relationship starts out with some nerves. And that's okay, it's how you know you like someone and hope they like you too. :) Take your time, get to know each other, and the comfort will settle in if the are the right person :)
3 years ago
Kitzer​(sub female) - I think the best thing you can do is to be your best self. If you're not the type to be dominate from the get go, then just don't. Besides the best dominance comes naturally.

If you're with a submissive girl and you have dominance the relationship will naturally turn in that direction.

Also all these reservations you have may help you to find the right type of sub.

I mean sure some subs may be seeking instant domination and while there's nothing wrong with that, it doesn't have to be for you.

I would say let go of the result and just focus on what's in front of you. Then do what's natural. At least this way you're building a genuine relationship and not being fake.
3 years ago
sandrakanda​(sub female) - For me body language, confidence, the way he carries himself is what I look at. Looking dominant comes naturally and can be in the detail just like being submissive. Everyone might have an opinion how real sub or dom looks like and acts like, but at the beginning it's all about respect. Don't worry they will notice and if not then it's not a match.
3 years ago
lifeofdom​(dom male) - After reading your thoughts, I can say as a dominant I feel similar to you: for example
To show dominance even before mentioning or talking about it, can come across as arrogance, and thus end anything from an early start..
I find myself, gravitating in a world of doubt as here in the uk.. Things work much different.. The society allows/accepts/ encourages women to be very active be it professionally or personally,
That in terms creates an enormous and gigantic issue in terms of relationships.. As men ( in large numbers) don't accept that kind of dominance naturally. So, a lot of single women, looking, ( faking submission here) getting back in the subject: you are not alone in your doubts and your fears, and here you would come across as an abusive man if you did/ do. So here we thread very, very lightly..... Be patient and what you seek may come to you..
3 years ago
Jack in the box -
Nice blog, thank you for sharing 👍

I have stated many times to potential partners. . . "we are just 2 people getting to know each other - I am no ones dominant, until I am - and you are no ones submissive, until you are".
Being that we are on a kink site, the door is presumed open for "so hey, what are you in to?" Lol -
Never-the-less, just 2 people getting to know each other.
If you are going to like me as a dominant, you need to like me as a man, right?
As far as 1st contact - I display my feathers and let the ladies come to me. Ive never heard of this as "fake subs"
3 years ago
DaddyDrago​(dom male){LilAmethys} - I feel there is such a varying degree of definition around the word 'dominance'.
You could be overtly dominant in speech and mannerisms and there is no guarantee that the individual you are dating would pick up on it or resonate if they were submissive.
Why?
Because everyone responds differently to others firstly. Secondly, what moves them does. What one persons deems as overbearing and too heavy handed fits like a glove and makes the panties wet of another.

The honesty here is that all you can be is yourself.
I agree with your predisposition. As Jack said, 'I am no ones' dominant - until I am'.
Dominance is earned. Not some cheap parlor trick to be trotted out willy nilly at the behest of others amusement. It is yours. Belongs to you.
However you choose to show up is what is honest to you. Authentically you. If you choose to get to know someone before you express your dominant interests that is your choice. If you choose to let potential partners know up front that you are kinky and leave it at that for them to question further later if they desire, that is your right as well. Whatever suits you.
3 years ago

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